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    Quote Originally Posted by regidude View Post
    Yeah...pretty much the ability and possibly typing for some, that make mega evolutions desirable over a held item that boosts stat or damage. But being a dynamic item, (Having the ability to control when you decide to use it) is very innovative and welcome in competitive battling. It will really freshen up the predictable metagame we have so far and allow more diversity instead of dedicated movesets.
    The Venusaur I currently use has a Big Root to boost Giga Drain. If I had to choose between that item and the Mega Stone to get Thick Fat, it's going to be Thick Fat all the way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PearlDex View Post
    The Venusaur I currently use has a Big Root to boost Giga Drain. If I had to choose between that item and the Mega Stone to get Thick Fat, it's going to be Thick Fat all the way.
    Exactly, abilities and type are probably the main thing that make them more desirable over other held items.

    As a side note, you do know that big root + giga drain will not deal any extra damage to the opponent. It only increases how much HP you heal by 30%, but giga drain still does the same amount of damage as before.

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    Quote Originally Posted by regidude View Post
    Exactly, abilities and type are probably the main thing that make them more desirable over other held items.

    As a side note, you do know that big root + giga drain will not deal any extra damage to the opponent. It only increases how much HP you heal by 30%, but giga drain still does the same amount of damage as before.
    Of course. But with weaknesses to so many common types of Pokemon (which, again, thick fat partially resolves) Big Root gives me, typically, 1 more turn before Venusaur is out like a light. It's a Dream World Venusaur so its speed (after Houndoom's Heat Rock/Sunny Day) keeps it around a lot longer than usual, ANYWAY. With Thick Fat, hopefully even longer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sukiza View Post
    i think the new ability is the way to go for a certain mega evolution.. maybe a new type aswell.. but mainly the ability
    Yeah.
    But then again, it really depends of on the pokemon.
    Maybe if a pokemon already has a decent ability, but its stats suck, then maybe higher stats would be best for the mega evo. IDK just thinking out loud here XD
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    Since all starters except the Kalos trio will likely get a new mega, I'd like to see. Mine are hardly broken though.

    Meganium
    Grass/Psychic
    Ability: Regenerator
    + Def, + Sp Def

    Typhlosion
    Fire
    Ability: Intimidate
    + Spd

    Feraligatr
    Water
    Ability: Rough Skin
    + Atk, + Def

    Sceptile
    Grass/Dark
    Ability: Chlorophyll
    + Atk, + Spd

    Swampert
    Water/Ground
    Ability: Storm Drain
    + Def, + Sp Def

    Torterra
    Grass/Ground
    Ability: Solid Rock
    + Atk, + Def

    Infernape
    Fire/Fighting
    Ability: Iron Fist
    + Atk, + Spd

    Empoleon
    Water/Steel
    Ability: Sniper
    + Atk, + Spd

    Serperior
    Grass
    Ability: Infiltration
    + Sp Def, + Spd

    Emboar
    Fire/Fighting
    Ability: Anger Point
    + Atk, + Sp Atk

    Samurott
    Water/Fighting
    Ability: Technician
    + Atk, + Sp Atk, + Spd

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    I can't help but think they could be reserving the Dream World abilities of the fifth gen starters for their Mega Evolutions, seeing as they still haven't been distributed at this point in time.

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    I wish it would show the moves the Mega Evolutions use in their trailers... It's really intriguing me.
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    @Shneak, they sound very real, actually.

    Althugh, becuase I change everything, I have my stuff.

    Meganium
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    Ability: Leaf Guard
    + Sp. Attack, + Sp. Defense

    Typhlosion
    Fire/Ground
    Ability: Hustle
    + Attack, + Speed

    Feraligatr
    Water/Dark
    Ability: Intimidate
    ++ Attack

    Sceptile
    Grass/Dark
    Ability: Sniper
    + Attack, + Sp. Attack

    Swampert
    Water/Ground
    Ability: Sap Sipper Dry Skin
    + Defense, + Sp. Attack

    Torterra
    Grass/Ground
    Ability: Solid Rock
    + Defense, + Sp. Defense

    Infernape
    Fire/Fighting
    Ability: Anger Point
    + Attack, + Speed

    Empoleon
    Water/Steel
    Ability: Snow Cloak
    + Sp. Attack, + Sp. Defense

    Serperior
    Grass/Dragon
    Ability: Contrary
    + Sp. Attack, + Speed

    Emboar
    Fire/Fighting
    Ability: Iron Fist
    + HP, + Attack

    Samurott
    Water/Fighting
    Ability: Justified
    + Attack, + Sp. Defense

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shneak View Post
    Since all starters except the Kalos trio will likely get a new mega, I'd like to see. Mine are hardly broken though.

    Meganium
    Grass/Psychic
    Ability: Regenerator
    + Def, + Sp Def

    Typhlosion
    Fire
    Ability: Intimidate
    + Spd

    Feraligatr
    Water
    Ability: Rough Skin
    + Atk, + Def

    Sceptile
    Grass/Dark
    Ability: Chlorophyll
    + Atk, + Spd

    Swampert
    Water/Ground
    Ability: Storm Drain
    + Def, + Sp Def

    Torterra
    Grass/Ground
    Ability: Solid Rock
    + Atk, + Def

    Infernape
    Fire/Fighting
    Ability: Iron Fist
    + Atk, + Spd

    Empoleon
    Water/Steel
    Ability: Sniper
    + Atk, + Spd

    Serperior
    Grass
    Ability: Infiltration
    + Sp Def, + Spd

    Emboar
    Fire/Fighting
    Ability: Anger Point
    + Atk, + Sp Atk

    Samurott
    Water/Fighting
    Ability: Technician
    + Atk, + Sp Atk, + Spd
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    I'm hoping they didn't think that gen 5 is too recent to deserve any Mega Evolutions or anything silly like that. While the gen 5 Pokemon are overall a lot less in need of them, if they're going to be giving other already good Pokemon megas, there's really no justification in not giving them any.

    On an unrelated note, I randomly had a weird thought about Manectric gaining Fire as a secondary typing with its Mega Evolution. It does learn more Fire type moves then any other Electric Pokemon, if I'm not mistaken, though it's only mentioned as accidentally causing fires with its electricity.

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    I'm still not entirely sure why Gen VI aren't getting Megas (or why that's even come up). Restricting Gen VI Pokemon specifically from having Mega Evolutions seems conspicuous and lazy (especially if all past Gen Pokemon get MEvos, as speculated). By only enabling past-Gen to have Mega Evos, you're putting people who use the new Pokemon at a Mega-less disadvantage, and further separating the more recent designs from their predecessors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Excitable Boy View Post
    I'm still not entirely sure why Gen VI aren't getting Megas (or why that's even come up). Restricting Gen VI Pokemon specifically from having Mega Evolutions seems conspicuous and lazy (especially if all past Gen Pokemon get MEvos, as speculated). By only enabling past-Gen to have Mega Evos, you're putting people who use the new Pokemon at a Mega-less disadvantage, and further separating the more recent designs from their predecessors.
    I think they have them they just wont be in this game or they may release a mega stone as an event for the starters later on

    I just don't get why the region that discovered Mega Evolution doesn't have any Gen 6 Pokémon that can learn it... not even 1?

    tbh this idea kinda put me off mega evolution I was so excited for it then they said it was only on pokemon I have already used (which will probs have nearly the same sets/attacks as last gen and the gen before that)

    the only ME I intend to have are the Kanto Starters (because Gen 1 was where is started for me ) and Mewtwo because I have 2 event ones with electro ball
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shneak View Post
    Since all starters except the Kalos trio will likely get a new mega, I'd like to see. Mine are hardly broken though.
    I'm not sure how likely it is, so far we get one from a set in-game (Kanto for nostalgia) and one from an event (Blaziken must be popular). Until we get more info I'm not convinced we have enough to say they will all get them yet.

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    I don't have a big wish list for megas only two. First off mega grumpig with magic bounce, I want to look a little meaner like a boar with tusks and all and secondly I want my favorite starter serperior to finally get contrary as well as the grass/dragon typing. If you make this come true gf I will love you forever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Excitable Boy View Post
    I'm still not entirely sure why Gen VI aren't getting Megas (or why that's even come up). Restricting Gen VI Pokemon specifically from having Mega Evolutions seems conspicuous and lazy (especially if all past Gen Pokemon get MEvos, as speculated). By only enabling past-Gen to have Mega Evos, you're putting people who use the new Pokemon at a Mega-less disadvantage, and further separating the more recent designs from their predecessors.
    MegaEvolution is to improve a certain aspect and/or characteristics of a pokemon. Until GF know which pokemon need ' improvements ' in Gen VI I think this is a good decision. Otherwise every gen VI pokemon would have lower BST in their last evolutions for obvious improvement, but I'm lost on that concept myself. But what I'm saying is, if Kalos pokemon had MegaEvolution (remember, they only said not in XY, so it may appear in Z/XY2/A/W/whatever), then their final evolution may be used less and MegaEvolving new pokemon would take away from their un-MegaEvolved forms, IMO. E.g. I'd prefer a MegaTalonflame with higher speed and attack compared to a 'normal' Talonflame. GF is a business, they need to show off what they have. XY can be seen as a survey as to what pokemon need what improvements, if any, and XY needs to show off gen VI pokemon as much as possible. If we had MegaEvolution in say Gen 3, I guarantee most people would rather have the pokemon beast MegaBlaziken than the normal one. Plus, they need to find out which Gen VI pokemon are popular and 'improveable' before any MegaRehash of new pokemon. But give it time, it'll happen!
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    Quote Originally Posted by dirkac View Post
    @Shneak, they sound very real, actually.

    Althugh, becuase I change everything, I have my stuff.

    Meganium
    Grass/Fairy
    Ability: Leaf Guard
    + Sp. Attack, + Sp. Defense

    Typhlosion
    Fire/Ground
    Ability: Hustle
    + Attack, + Speed

    Feraligatr
    Water/Dark
    Ability: Intimidate
    ++ Attack

    Sceptile
    Grass/Dark
    Ability: Sniper
    + Attack, + Sp. Attack

    Swampert
    Water/Ground
    Ability: Sap Sipper Dry Skin
    + Defense, + Sp. Attack

    Torterra
    Grass/Ground
    Ability: Solid Rock
    + Defense, + Sp. Defense

    Infernape
    Fire/Fighting
    Ability: Anger Point
    + Attack, + Speed

    Empoleon
    Water/Steel
    Ability: Snow Cloak
    + Sp. Attack, + Sp. Defense

    Serperior
    Grass/Dragon
    Ability: Contrary
    + Sp. Attack, + Speed

    Emboar
    Fire/Fighting
    Ability: Iron Fist
    + HP, + Attack

    Samurott
    Water/Fighting
    Ability: Justified
    + Attack, + Sp. Defense

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    Quote Originally Posted by hydrosharp_98 View Post
    MegaEvolution is to improve a certain aspect and/or characteristics of a pokemon.
    Partly true; they've been giving some of them out to just fan favorites (see Mewtwos, Blaziken, Lucario, Garchomp).

    Besides, it's not as if Game Freak is incapable of making some kind of prediction; they've said themselves that they perform playtesting on the games. It doesn't take a genius to figure out that a < 500 BST Pokemon with a poor movepool and typing is going to underwhelm.

    Quote Originally Posted by hydrosharp_98 View Post
    (remember, they only said not in XY, so it may appear in Z/XY2/A/W/whatever)
    goddammit, they'd better not pull sh*t like that

    Quote Originally Posted by hydrosharp_98 View Post
    then their final evolution may be used less and MegaEvolving new pokemon would take away from their un-MegaEvolved forms, IMO. E.g. I'd prefer a MegaTalonflame with higher speed and attack compared to a 'normal' Talonflame.
    In the same way the current Megas take away from the Pokemon they're Megas of? I doubt that popularity of the original forms of Kanto starters or Lucario has necessarily dwindled since the introduction of their Megas, and even if it does, that's not necessarily a bad thing, per se. They take away in the same way something like Hariyama takes away from Makuhita, or Kingler takes away from Krabby.

    At any rate, there's still the one-Mega-limit in effect; you can't just Mega all your Kalos Pokemon even if you want to.

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    [/QUOTE]
    In the same way the current Megas take away from the Pokemon they're Megas of? I doubt that popularity of the original forms of Kanto starters or Lucario has necessarily dwindled since the introduction of their Megas, and even if it does, that's not necessarily a bad thing, per se. They take away in the same way something like Hariyama takes away from Makuhita, or Kingler takes away from Krabby.

    At any rate, there's still the one-Mega-limit in effect; you can't just Mega all your Kalos Pokemon even if you want to.[/QUOTE]

    I hear you, what I meant was I think that they want to establish this gen before they MegaEvolve the minority of them, so that they're MegaEvolutions can be easily recognised. Commercially, I guess this makes sense. But I'm with you lot - I'd love a MegaNoivern for example.
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    im still going to wait on the release to pass my full judgement of megas. They are cool, but i hope they dont unbalance the whole Universe of Pokemon. Im still waiting.....i am patiently optimistic.

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    Man, some of these Mega Evolutions are impressive.


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    I doubt ANY of the starters are going to change typing with their megas after Charizard and Blastoise don't

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    I don't know, I could see Mega Feraligatr/Typhlosion both getting fighting type - not saying I'm rooting for another Fire/Fighting though!
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    Quote Originally Posted by PsychoIncarnate View Post
    I doubt ANY of the starters are going to change typing with their megas after Charizard and Blastoise don't
    I agree. And I'm also cautious about other starters even getting Mega evolutions, as the Kanto-starters weren't apparently thought about that much... it just happened I guess?

    Anyway, if other starters do get Mega evolutions and do gain new types, the only ones I'd like are Grass/Fairy for Meganium, Grass/Dragon for Serperior and Water/Fighting for Samurott. The others would be fine with no type changes, in my opinion.
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    IF I saw Typhlosion getting anything, which I doubt he would, it would be ground seeing he's the volcano pokemon - like camerupt (Who ISN'T the volcano pokemon, but he is a volcano) which despite having a 4x weakness, I feel is a pretty good typing with 4 resistances and an immunity. STAB Earth Power and access to Power Gem would be pretty good

    For Feraligatr, I don't see anything he could be better than Water/ Dark, which would make his Crunch's STAB.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Munchy View Post
    I agree. And I'm also cautious about other starters even getting Mega evolutions, as the Kanto-starters weren't apparently thought about that much... it just happened I guess?

    Anyway, if other starters do get Mega evolutions and do gain new types, the only ones I'd like are Grass/Fairy for Meganium, Grass/Dragon for Serperior and Water/Fighting for Samurott. The others would be fine with no type changes, in my opinion.
    When Megas were announced, the ones people wanted more than anything WERE the Kanto starters. It was pretty obvious they were going to get Megas if any.

    On the top 100 pokemon poll on IGN, Charizard and Blastoise got in the top 3 favorite pokemon, Charizard being number one and Blastoise being number 3. They are the most favorite starters AND pokemon of many pokemon fans

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