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    Quote Originally Posted by Umbreon2112 View Post
    Still, even if they stop mega evos which I doubt, they will still exist in future games.. Whether they make more or not
    You say they still exist in future games when we haven't gotten a new Pokemon game - less so a spin-off - ever since these ones were released.

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    I couldn't imagine them removing MEs in the future.
    That would make Pokemon useless all over again. It'd make more sense to continue making more MEs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MuhFugginMoose View Post
    I couldn't imagine them removing MEs in the future.
    That would make Pokemon useless all over again. It'd make more sense to continue making more MEs.
    Not that I support the idea of them getting removed, but Masuda did say that the next new game is going to try to fix a lot of problems. I wonder what he really means by that statement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AuraChannelerChris View Post
    Not that I support the idea of them getting removed, but Masuda did say that the next new game is going to try to fix a lot of problems. I wonder what he really means by that statement.
    I don't think MEs are anywhere near one of those problems. If anything it was an attempt at fixing somethings that needed to be fixed. In some cases, it did quite well actually.
    He stated they're going to try and make it simple again. That doesn't mean they'll be removing MEs, MEs are actually quite simple.
    What I gather is that they will go back and remove things that don't need to be there. We don't need two abilities that do the same thing. We don't need 4 moves that do nothing but lower the attack stat. They serve no purpose. Them giving so many pokes a "signature move" this gen was frankly dumb. Topsy Turvy and Parting shot are prime examples of such. The two Pokes that learn those moves, competitively speaking, aren't good.

    I don't think "fixing" their problems consists of removing MEs from the game entirely. In some cases, they made some Pokemon viable again (Ampharos, Kangaskhan, and Pinsir). If they were to take them away, so many Pokes would drop in usage all over again. Why would they do that. . ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by AuraChannelerChris View Post
    You say they still exist in future games when we haven't gotten a new Pokemon game - less so a spin-off - ever since these ones were released.
    So what? All of a sudden mega evos are removed from future titles? I seriously doubt that. That's just not goin to happen dude

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    Quote Originally Posted by MuhFugginMoose View Post
    I don't think MEs are anywhere near one of those problems. If anything it was an attempt at fixing somethings that needed to be fixed. In some cases, it did quite well actually.
    He stated they're going to try and make it simple again. That doesn't mean they'll be removing MEs, MEs are actually quite simple.
    What I gather is that they will go back and remove things that don't need to be there. We don't need two abilities that do the same thing. We don't need 4 moves that do nothing but lower the attack stat. They serve no purpose. Them giving so many pokes a "signature move" this gen was frankly dumb. Topsy Turvy and Parting shot are prime examples of such. The two Pokes that learn those moves, competitively speaking, aren't good.

    I don't think "fixing" their problems consists of removing MEs from the game entirely. In some cases, they made some Pokemon viable again (Ampharos, Kangaskhan, and Pinsir). If they were to take them away, so many Pokes would drop in usage all over again. Why would they do that. . ?
    You do realize you're giving examples of removing stuff from the games while keeping MEs around, right?

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    So what? All of a sudden mega evos are removed from future titles? I seriously doubt that. That's just not goin to happen dude
    I asked myself the same question when Contests were removed. We got Musicals, and most people didn't like those.

    That might happen, "dude." I'm not saying it will.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AuraChannelerChris View Post
    You do realize you're giving examples of removing stuff from the games while keeping MEs around, right?
    You do realize there's a HUGE difference between redundant moves and Mega Evolutions right?

    Quote Originally Posted by AuraChannelerChris View Post
    I asked myself the same question when Contests were removed. We got Musicals, and most people didn't like those.

    That might happen, "dude." I'm not saying it will.
    Contests weren't detrimental to the effectiveness of Pokemon. Contests were side mini-games, nothing more. Mega evolutions are detrimental to the main point in the game. Battling.

    They're two completely different things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AuraChannelerChris View Post
    I asked myself the same question when Contests were removed. We got Musicals, and most people didn't like those.

    That might happen, "dude."
    I think you know and I know that there's a difference between removing a mini-game and retconning out a fully designed, half evolution/half form for about 30 Pokemon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MuhFugginMoose View Post
    You do realize there's a HUGE difference between redundant moves and Mega Evolutions right?
    It takes a little change to make a huge difference just as simple as adding a single move.

    Quote Originally Posted by Excitable Boy View Post
    I think you know and I know that there's a difference between removing a mini-game and retconning out a fully designed, half evolution/half form for about 30 Pokemon.
    I know that. Hence why I said "might."

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    Quote Originally Posted by AuraChannelerChris View Post
    I know that. Hence why I said "might."
    "Might" implies that there's a chance of it happening that can be expressed as an integer percentage greater than zero.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AuraChannelerChris View Post
    It takes a little change to make a huge difference just as simple as adding a single move.
    Removing a mechanic like MEs is not little change. What you're telling me, is they "might" make Pinsir good for only X/Y? Does that really sound right to you?
    That's like saying they're going to remove Gliscor and all the other "rehash'd" Pokemon introduced in Fourth Gen.

    I think it's safe to say, Mega Evolutions aren't going anywhere.
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    I suppose getting rid of MEs will be hard to see.

    Needless to say, that makes me excited all the same.

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    "Might" implies that there's a chance of it happening that can be expressed as an integer percentage greater than zero.
    There we go.

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    I imagine with some certainty that the problem of increasing complexity in Pokemon that the devs keep dealing with is the problem of items, evo methods, and things. It requires each successive game to have everything each previous incarnation had.

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    They've already put the time, money and effort into designing them, they're being used, they're honestly not being trashed and the various developers are clearly somewhat excited about the prospect of using megas in the future
    It'd be as ridiculous to do as, say, getting rid of Fairy type. Or to limit the scope a little, all formes, especially the legendaries.

    I think even if it was absolutely trashed from every angle, they wouldn't get rid of some thing major to the battling aspect, they'd either rework it &/or cease making new ones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AuraChannelerChris View Post
    Unfortunately, this really doesn't mean it will stay forever either. This is a testing ground of sorts for the developers to expand upon if it's necessary. Besides, since this mechanic was recently discovered to be in Kalos only and not the whole world (unless Xerneas/Yveltal's power stretched everywhere), they might abandon the idea. I know there's a large bunch of people who know very well Mega Evolutions pretty much canned future evolutions for old Pokemon whose names aren't Eevee. Now everyone is forced to say "I wonder who's getting a new Mega Evolution!" instead of the usual "I wonder who's getting an evolution!"

    You never wondered why we never had Contests make a comeback in Gen V after two gens? That's far low in the scale of important things, but you never know.
    Pretty much this. I have to admit that even though using them is pretty entertaining, I'd still rather a lot of these Pokemon *that aren't Gengar, Lucario, Blaziken, and another I can't quite think of off the top of my head* receive pre-evolutions/evolutions *lookin' at you Kangaskhan and Mawile* rather than only mega-evolving during battle. It makes me wonder too if GF ever plans on going 'all or nothing' for the rest of the Pokemon in the Dex.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sunshinemasterking View Post
    thought the would not make one, one of his gimmicks are the plates that change his type they would have to get rid of that to make it work and I don't see them doing that ever
    They could easily give him a new ability upon receiving a Mega Evolution. Maybe something that allows him to gain access to all the types in the game and then cycle through them one by one after every turn.

    Not saying that would be the best option or what would be likely to happen, but it is an option nonetheless. So they wouldn't be forced to abandon his gimmick; they could just tweak it a bit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DanteKoriyu View Post
    They could easily give him a new ability upon receiving a Mega Evolution. Maybe something that allows him to gain access to all the types in the game and then cycle through them one by one after every turn.

    Not saying that would be the best option or what would be likely to happen, but it is an option nonetheless. So they wouldn't be forced to abandon his gimmick; they could just tweak it a bit.
    I could just imagine it:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aegislash View Post
    I could just imagine it:
    Mega Arceus
    Ability: Decapitator (Turns Judgement into the type that would do the most damage to opposing pokemon) (or something like that)
    How about the ability makes Judgement the type its Hidden Power is.
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    I dont see Mega Evolution being deleted in future gens but I would like to see them not use it on Pokemon that were already powerful enough (Gengar, Alakazam, Garchomp, ect...) but instead use it on ones that need a boost to actually be useful (Tropius, Sableye, Farfetch'd, ect...)
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    Quote Originally Posted by AuraChannelerChris View Post
    Not that I support the idea of them getting removed, but Masuda did say that the next new game is going to try to fix a lot of problems. I wonder what he really means by that statement.
    Not that I don't believe you (quite the opposite), but I'm curious as to what source you're quoting. I haven't exactly been keeping myself in the loop, but I also haven't heard about any Masuda press releases.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Firebrand View Post
    Not that I don't believe you (quite the opposite), but I'm curious as to what source you're quoting. I haven't exactly been keeping myself in the loop, but I also haven't heard about any Masuda press releases.
    I think they are confusing it with Sugimori's statement on the matter:

    In the magazine “We Love Pokémon”, Game Freak's Ken Sugimori commented on the seventh generation of Pokémon.

    When asked what the next generation of Pokémon games will be like if such a plan exists, Sugimori commented that they will not add more layers of complexity, but rather revert back to simplicity, in part by using elements found in Pokémon Red and Green. Therefore, there is now speculation that Game Freak may opt for this route in developing Generation VII.

    As a side note, not only the number of games, but also the number of Pokémon, moves, abilities, items, etc. increase as each new generation is introduced, to such a degree that is difficult to remember all of them. It is impossible to decrease the amount of Pokémon, and such a move is assumed to be uncalled for, but some fans have claimed that it might be better to significantly organize/trim the moves, abilities, items, etc.

    Also, Sugimori thought that other than the content of the game, Pokémon designs could probably be simplified, as well. As an extra, he stated in the same magazine that his favorite Pokémon of all times, even now as of the Pokémon XY series, is still Gengar as in the past.
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    Photo-0182.jpg hi there people, i just wanted to upload an image of something that... must be like a Mega-Xerneas or something. i just caugth it.... on my freaking FIRST TRY!!!, its modest, and if someone hasnt calculated it, it has 5 of 6 IVs on 31. it has 4 EP on attack because i used it to kill lysandre's mienshao and honckrow, then mega gyarados killed me and i respawned on the pokecenter. i checked on various iv calculators because i couldnt believe it when i first saw the results on the serebii calculator....
    i still have my 3ds turned on, i feel like if i turn it off, it will someway disappear or something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by laceromuvo View Post
    Photo-0182.jpg hi there people, i just wanted to upload an image of something that... must be like a Mega-Xerneas or something. i just caugth it.... on my freaking FIRST TRY!!!, its modest, and if someone hasnt calculated it, it has 5 of 6 IVs on 31. it has 4 EP on attack because i used it to kill lysandre's mienshao and honckrow, then mega gyarados killed me and i respawned on the pokecenter. i checked on various iv calculators because i couldnt believe it when i first saw the results on the serebii calculator....
    i still have my 3ds turned on, i feel like if i turn it off, it will someway disappear or something.
    isn't that just Xerneas in its other form?...


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    Don't you think it would be a good idea to give a Pokemon like Dunsparce to have a mega-evolution? All of that fanart going around can be its mega because it hasn't even gotten an evolution yet. Now that mega-evolution is out, weak Pokemon like him could get one seeing how they haven't gotten an evolution yet, it's not happening soon. Besides, mega-evolving is new, so these Pokemon have a chance. Well?
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