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  1. #276
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    Just finished the episode and I thought it was decent. A bit surprised at how aloof Ash and his mother were to each other. He seemed more interested in his pokemon and she seemed more interested in his dirty laundry.
    Very disappointed that the dub cut out the end. Yeah it was only a few seconds and not a big deal but I was looking forward to that part. It was nice seeing Bulbasaur again though.
    Finally Best Wishes is over and XY can begin. So excited! But I think they are taking a long break, right? I wonder if the first two episodes will air together or not (since they are already dubbed)...

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  2. #277
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    So we return home to where it all began.

    This episode made me smile from beginning to end and in my opinion it was an apt conclusion to the saga. I particularly enjoyed all the interactions between characters but I expected the interaction between Ash and his mum to have more warmth, perhaps with a hug or something. The task for this episode was to set up Ash's journey to Kalos but I think it achieved that and more and it was great to see a few past party members. The highlight of the episode was when Ash was looking back on his journey and all his past companions were seen in the sky, it just rekindled some good memories.

    We've already seen the beginning of Kalos which shows a promising outlook so without further ado...

    Onto the next adventure!!!
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  3. #278


    There was no reason for the dub to ignore the scene - DP's ending in Jap was after the credits and the dub changed it to before the credits, the same could have been done here bare in mind "Next Time.. A New Beginning showed up i'm sure they could have found a way.

  4. #279
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    I watched the dubbed episode and it was okay. Not the best last episode of a serie, but not the worse either. I actually enjoyed Ash being at home; it was warm and I felt happy to notice BW is the very first serie I started from the first episode to the end. I saw every single episode of this serie (compared to all the others), so it has a special place in my heart. I liked it more than many people here. But as I watched AG and DP afterward, due to my curiosity, I realized how some things could have been changed to be better or some things that were truly lacking in the past that were added here.

    About the episode, nothing spectacular, but just great. Emotions were mostly part of the previous episode, so this one didn't have that much, aside maybe of the emotional conflict between Ash and his mother. I'm glad we're moving on to XY. The serie showed, so far, incredible episodes, so I'm excited. Good bye, BW, I really enjoyed watching you all the way. It was fun.

    Like G4Pokefan (good idea, by the way!) did, I think I'll mention my list of positive points about the overall serie (because I don't like to talk about bad sides of a serie when it ends).

    Positive points.

    Iris and Cilan: I found the companions this time really nice. Their interactions were cool to see, and I'm one of the only people who liked Iris's "Such a little kid" phrase. It made me smile every time I heard it. Iris was a one-of-a-kind girl. Very different, physically and mentally, from the past girls. As for Cilan, a fresh, new male partner made the serie very enjoyable. And he was funny.

    The clean graphics: Something that I hate from AG and biggest half of DP was the low quality of the picture. BW was so neat, I was mesmerized by it almost every time. It made the serie much more enjoyable, to be honest; I know the techniques couldn't allow this quality at the time, but I truly like when picture is clear (thanks to my quality-freak father, I guess).

    The good Pokémon personalities: Many Pokémon had some great personality, especially Snivy (my favorite of Ash's entire Pokémon so far), Emolga, Dragonite, Pignite, Stunfisk and Krookodile. Some of them were unique and it made the show better that way. Their interactions with other were quite good and even if some appeared quite rarely, their screen time were very precious.

    The rival diversity: Many rivals to be pleased with! Stephan, Bianca, Virgil, Trip; all different kinds of personality! Only downside was Cameron, who I hated, but still. They were all so different, it made the atmosphere to vary times to times.

    And plenty more, but I guess I'll let it like that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Prince of May View Post
    Like G4Pokefan (good idea, by the way!) did, I think I'll mention my list of positive points about the overall serie (because I don't like to talk about bad sides of a serie when it ends).
    thanks for the mention!

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    Well, that's all folks! Gen 5 is now over.

    Odd for Ash to desire to see his Pokemon first, before his mother. Guess the show never really wants to focus so much on Ash and Delia's relationship. As the show goes by, it seems like their interaction spaces out tremendously. It shows.

    Glad the dub gave us a proper WTP? with Bulbasaur, and not freaking Zekrom like in Japan. Oh Japan.

    Nice to see Bulbasaur again, and the Tauros... but that's it? Also a killjoy for the dub to cut out the portrait scene at the very end from the original. And to those who watch the dub only; rejoice as Charizard and Gliscor are both confirmed to reside at Oak's Lab, revealed by the portrait cut from the english dub.

    Nice reference of Misty and Tracey, but from the sound of it, I can see them being an item now. Thanks writers? The cameos of all of Ash's friends in front of the sun was a great throwback. Gary, Misty, Dr. Brock, May, Max, Dawn... and Iris and Cilan. Those two may have ups and downs, presenting wise, but I will miss them.

    Geez Ash, overkill much with using Pikachu, Pignite, Snivy, Oshawott, Unfezant, Scraggy, Leavanny, Boldore, Palpitoad, Krookodile and CHARIZARD to attack Team Rocket? It was epic though, but geez. They should have been dead by that giantic mesh of power. I suppose this episode mainly counts to give the entire Unova Pokemon one last appearance before they remain Oak'd.

    Team Rocket appearing before Giovanni. Kind of a let down that they gave away their Pokemon to him for proof of their progress in Unova. They do seem upset that they had to resort to giving away their Pokemon. While we didn't get to see much of their personalities, TR did seem caring of them. They had good moments, especially during Team Rocket VS Team Plasma during Episode N.

    But wait... Wobbuffet!? It's been 3 years now buddy. Now to prepare for that gag over and over. I still wish Team Rocket would get their other Pokemon back, too. But I'd like to see them with new Kalos Pokemon as well.

    And now. Ash is off to Kalos. Ash mentioning the Leaders, the Elite 4 and Champion especially, gets me wondering what we'll see in the XY anime. I really hope we get to see them all.

    Overall, I give the entire Black & White saga a 6/10. It had potential, still had great moments, but a lot of missed opportunities. Thanks for the memories BW. Best Wishes! Now we move onward, to XY!

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  8. #283
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    A little disappointed Iris and Cilan didn't get to meet Ash's other Pokemon. I loved seeing Bulbasaur again though.
    Team Rocket leaving the Unova pokemon was sad, hopefully we'll see them again one day. Wobbufett's back though which is awesome

  9. #284
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    Well, this is it! The final dub episode of Black and White saga is finally here.

    This episode started with Ash and Alexa finally reaching Pallet Town ... Ash's hometown. It's great to see Ash finally returning Pallet Town, but I didn't like how Ash was so excited to see his Pokemon before seeing his own mother first. Geez, what's with him? He should've decided to go see Delia First before seeing his Pokémon. After all, she is his mother. It's nice of Alexa to tell Ash visit his mother, it made Ash realize that it would be smart to see his mother first. Ash did reunite with Delia, but their reunion wasn't as heartwarming as expected. I was expecting a mother-son hug, but she just welcomed him home and took his laundry. I think it'd be better if the writers gave a little more focus on Ash and Delia's relationship in this episode. But hey, at least Ash showed a little emotion when Delia went to het the new cloths for him. It's nice to see Ash appriciating Delia and telling her she's the best, that was touching.

    When Ash came to Prof. Oak's ranch, I was hoping for his older Pokémon to appear ... and guess what? Some of His older Pokemon did appear! It's so great to see Bulbasaur again, and all the Tauros too! But that's all? I'm kind disappointed that Besides Bulbasaur, Tauros and Charizard, none of the older Pokémon appeared in this episode. Oh well, at least we got see how Bulbasaur gathers Pokémon from diffrent regions by using a spacial Solar Beam as a signal.

    Ash lying in the grass and thinking about achiving his dream was touching. It makes me wonder if Ash realized how many mistakes he made during his journey through Unova? It seemed to me that Ash did realize that he needs to train harder to become a Pokémon Master. I liked how He didn't think about just HIS own dream in this episode, he also remebered that his other friends are following their dreams too. It's really awesome when Ash was remembering Brock, Gary, Misty, Tracy, May, Max, Dawn, Iris and Cilan.

    Ash also asked Prof. Oak if Tracy was there, but it turned out that Tracy is at Cerulean Gym... because Misty invited him?? Whoa, is it me or Tracy and Misty are spending more time with each other? Hmm... that's really somthing. Writers, you did the right thing this time. I'm really happy about this.

    Just when Ash was getting excited about going to Kalos region, Team Rocket attacked him AGAIN! Geez Team Rocket, how anonnying could you guys get? On top of that, they mentioned that they've only came to steal PIKACHU!! Seriously TR? Just Pikachu, not the other Pokémon? I guess they did intend to stealing the other Pokémon, but didn't mention it. Team Rocket got so much screentime in the last episode, but this time Ash didn't let them steal that much screentime. When Team Rocket brought out their weapons, Ash pretty much pwned them with his Unova team. It's awesome when Pikachu, Pignite, Oshawott, Snivy, Unfezant, Scraggy, Leavanny, Boldore, Palpitoad, Krookodile and Charizard blasted Team Rocket off by using their moves all together! Sometimes I wonder how Team Rocket manages to survive huge attacks like this?

    Darn, Team Rocket sure got in a trouble when Giovanni asked if they've captured any Pokémon in Unova. That led them to give away their Unova Pokémon as a proof of their progress in Unova. Oh whatever, I didn't care about TRio's Unova Pokémon since they didn't show any personality during the BW saga. Even though TRio had to give away their Unova Pokémon, they got back....What you know? It's Wobbuffet!! Whoa, it's been three whole years since he last appeared in the anime.... so it's good to see him again.

    After spending the day at Pallet Town and thinking about becoming stronger, the next day Ash is ready for going to the Kalos region. I gotta admit, Ash's new cloths are awesome, and he looks great in those cloths. Anyway, Now Ash is off to Kalos, where dreams and adventures begins!

    Overall, I thought this was pretty good episode, because it's a Pallet Town episode. We haven't had a Pallet Town episode since AG, so it was so great to finally have a Pallet episode. I would've liked to see more of Ash's older Pokémon besides Charizard, Bulbasaur and Tauros, sadly they only appeared in the Picture. . .but the whole scene with the group shot was Cut from the English dub!! Why TPCI, why? Geez, why did they cut an imopronat scene like that? The group shot confirmed that both Charizard and Gliscor are permanently back at Oak's Lab. Maybe they skipped the picture scene because it was after "NEXT TIME... A NEW BEGINNING" in the original.

    This time TPCI kept four pieces of the original BGM in the dub, which was a little disapponting. Oh well, at least they kept the BGM during the scene where Ash was remembering his friends. Also, Sarah's voice acting was not good as usual. Ash's voice sounded rough in some parts of this episode. I hope she won't use this voice for Ash in the XY anime dub.
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  10. #285
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    I cannot recall previous homecoming episodes but Ash seemed pretty insistent in getting stronger (during the bedroom scene) and winning the league in Kalos. The tense atmosphere at home and Ash's sighs not getting first place in the league in Unova seem to be an indication of this.

    Now at last we are come to the doorsteps of our home to end and start our journey once more.
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  11. #286
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    ok episode... severly disapoointed final footage and shot of ash with all hjis pokemon at the end was not in it.. they could have squeezed in the footage while the plane was flying then got back to the final shot with the next time new beggining part.

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  12. #287
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    I was re-watching this and I think the Japanese version of this episode does very good at closing BW. I really like how the music in this episode was mostly BW tracks we haven't heard since the beginning of the saga. Very nice touch.
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  13. #288
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    This isn't one of BW's better episodes - I liked the group shot at the end and Ash thinking of his friends, but everything else fell flat for me. I don't think it really has a leg to stand on other than setting up the new series.
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  14. #289
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    Why didn't they put Ash's old pokemon like Sceptile or Squirtle
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