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    Quote Originally Posted by defiantdenial View Post
    I don't know if anybody brought this up, but Drasna is apparently from Sinnoh. She mentions before her battle that she grew up in a town which is steeped in history, and her grandparents told her stories about the rulers of time and space, which inspired her to be a Dragon specialist. Therefore, she is quite clearly from Celestic Town, to be specific.
    Someone mentioned that before. I still don't like her design though; she looks a bit too sage-like. Not that cool compared to Malva and Siebold. And I know a lot of people like Wikstrom, but I don't like his suit of armor-esque outfit. If makes sense since he's a Steel-type specialist, but it seems excessive in my opinion.

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    I think I had the most fun in Clemont's Gym, simply because it's easy to gain experience points there by getting the quiz questions purposely wrong. You wouldn't believe how many electric types I stopped with Aurorus and Chesnaught lol. I was still getting a slight experience gap though, however the rare candies found in-game helped even that out. By the end of the Elite 4, my highest leveled Pokemon were Azumarill at Lv. 76 with the lowest being Raichu at Lv. 73, who was super trained in speed.

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    Just a small detail I've noticed, for those who have beaten the Elite 4:

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    I like the leader and gym designs but just wish they were better integrated into the story, ala BW (even B2W2), and had a part to play. Korrina was the best displayed and the others should have gotten somewhat similar roles.

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    My thoughts on the gym leaders

    [SPOILER]In B/W, the gym leaders acctually did something when Plasma attacked. At that point, Plasma only wanted Unova. Here, Flare was gonna wipe out most people in the world! Where were those guys, stuck in traffic?! I would have really liked to see more of them outside of their gyms and the battle maison. (exception to Korrina). I'm not counting Wulfric's extreemly brief apperance in the pokemon village. [/SPOILER]
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    This a question for people who've battled the elite 4: How would you rank them from easiest to hardest?

    Also I love that Valerie has such an "off" personality. The fact that she wants to actually be a pokemon is wacky, but endearing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gustavo 14 View Post
    Just a small detail I've noticed, for those who have beaten the Elite 4:

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    Additionally, wasn't that door supposed to be opened in the very first trailer?

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    Quote Originally Posted by applemania View Post
    This a question for people who've battled the elite 4: How would you rank them from easiest to hardest?

    Also I love that Valerie has such an "off" personality. The fact that she wants to actually be a pokemon is wacky, but endearing.
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    Both the gym leaders and Elite 4 are pretty low in difficulty. I blame how broken they made the EXP share in this game...
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBattleFrontierAsh1 View Post
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    Both the gym leaders and Elite 4 are pretty low in difficulty. I blame how broken they made the EXP share in this game...
    Easy for you to say. I had MAJOR troubles with the E4. Diantha was easy (Mega Gengar + Dazzling Gleam for the Goodra -.-) but...
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    Well just finished Gym 4. Bit behind in my levels due to my rushing through, but still fun all the way through.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wakbob View Post
    Well just finished Gym 4. Bit behind in my levels due to my rushing through, but still fun all the way through.
    It's probably best to go into Gyms underlevelled, really. Otherwise there's not really any challenge at all.
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    A quick training question. Is there anywhere better to do post game grinding than the Elite Four? If not, getting things to 100 is going to be so tedious.

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    I turned off EXP share becuzz it's whack. It's not fun to play pokemon for me of they're all godly. That's why I usually quit playing once my mains hit level 60.

    Anyway, I LOVE this game more than any other pokemon game. It's superb!
    However, there's SO much to do an explore that I somehow ended up with a team of level 30 pokemon and only 2 gym badges haa. And I don't use EXP share. I can't comment on the story (other than the villains are terrible) but I think the gym leaders should be much harder. Gym leaders should scale their pokemon levels to the ones in your party, that way they're always a bit stronger than you. Getting a gym badge should mean something. They should all hve at least 4 pokemon minimum. Also, can we have some more intense AI? For random trainers, it's okay for it to be extremely easy to beat them. But I want gym leaders to make me sweat!

    Otherwise, absolutely NO complaints about this game except the lack of any interesting fairy types other than xerneas -__-

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    Quote Originally Posted by 725roy View Post
    A quick training question. Is there anywhere better to do post game grinding than the Elite Four? If not, getting things to 100 is going to be so tedious.
    If you've reached a high rank in the Battle Chateau, you can get trainers with Audino to show up, which can be further increased with writs by up to 20 levels. Some restaurants in Lumiose also have strong trainers. All of this costs money, but money isn't a huge problem in this game, since you can get most of it back just from those battles.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gustavo 14 View Post
    If you've reached a high rank in the Battle Chateau, you can get trainers with Audino to show up, which can be further increased with writs by up to 20 levels.
    This, combined with a Lucky Incense, will be a godsend in grinding sessions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBattleFrontierAsh1 View Post
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    Both the gym leaders and Elite 4 are pretty low in difficulty. I blame how broken they made the EXP share in this game...
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    I just don't get it why people say the game was too easy. For me, it was really hard since the beginning. I guess I was dumb enough to choose Bulbasaur and Chespin and getting swept because of common weaknesses, but it was so hard at some points. I remember getting my whole team swept in a double battle by a Mr. Mime near to the town with the big rocks (forgot the name).

    Anyway, strangely enough, my whole team was underleveled when I got to the Pokemon League. My highest level pokemon was Chesnaught being lv. 63, followed by Venusaur (62), Golurk (60), Salamence (59) and my shiny Boldore (59). I just don't get it how people got their teams to level 70.

    E4 was ok. Some were tough and some were a breeze.

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    I don't really like to admit it, but yeah even without using Exp Share (much), grinding, or EV Training it was still fairly easy for me. Had this been any other game the levels at which the Leaders/E4/Champ were at would have crushed me, but really a couple broken mechanics ruined it. The Gym Leaders really need to start using four or so pokemon at around gyms 5 or 6.

    Then the Elite Four was broken for a number of reasons (only using four pokemon instead of five, not getting progressively stronger one after the other, no Mega-Evolutions and not particularly stellar teams). The only pokemon of Diantha's that gave me any trouble were Gourgeist and MegaGardevoir (though both of which were actually really annoying and difficult).

    Yes, you can go out of your way to make the game difficult for yourself (i.e. on my rematch with the E4 I went completely without healing or switching pokemon and got just beaten by Wikstrom's Aegislash, the last pokemon before Diantha), but you really shouldn't need to.


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    I kind of creamed the champion's Mega Pokémon with a Moonblast-to-the-face from my Xerneas. I suppose Mega Evolutions are never going to outclass legendaries...

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    I thought the whole game was easy...like I didn't have a problem with the gym leaders or elite four and I didn't even use the EXP for my in-game team only my wi-fi one


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    Quote Originally Posted by AuraChannelerChris View Post
    I kind of creamed the champion's Mega Pokémon with a Moonblast-to-the-face from my Xerneas. I suppose Mega Evolutions are never going to outclass legendaries...
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    Has there even ever been dark type gym? I don't think so. It's a hope I actually had for X and Y. ):
    Absolutely loved Viola because the whole photographer idea was amazing, and her type was bug!
    Grant is also a very well created gym leader. Didn't think so much of Korrina.
    However, I found Korrina the most difficult with her freaking Hawlucha.

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    Oh, and speaking about the champion, she has even less character backstory than all the previous champions. Blue always butted in in your travels, Lance was a hero through and through, Steven/Wallace did involve himself quite a lot during the evil teams' plots, Cynthia quite frankly was always next to you...and never took care of things herself because she knew she would win anyway, Alder is kind of cool unless we talk about his atrocious team setup (which is just the same as hers), and Iris got a lot of development herself.

    Diantha just...shows up two times without making much of an impression, and you'll probably end up skipping her ads on TVs.

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    For me:

    Hardest Gym Leader: Clemont - His Heliolisk was a huge pain with its Speed, making it very hard for my team to counter. Braixen managed to survive and defeat it with Psyshock.

    Easiest Gym Leader: Grant - Just two Flying Press's from Hawlucha /story

    I didn't find any of the E4 laughably easy but Siebold and Gyarados and Barabarcle were a challenge for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AuraChannelerChris View Post
    Oh, and speaking about the champion, she has even less character backstory than all the previous champions. Blue always butted in in your travels, Lance was a hero through and through, Steven/Wallace did involve himself quite a lot during the evil teams' plots, Cynthia quite frankly was always next to you...and never took care of things herself because she knew she would win anyway, Alder is kind of cool unless we talk about his atrocious team setup (which is just the same as hers), and Iris got a lot of development herself.

    Diantha just...shows up two times without making much of an impression, and you'll probably end up skipping her ads on TVs.
    Yeah, that lack of character development really hurt this time around, for most characters. No mid-battle cut-ins like before also made them seem like less of a character. I guess there were bigger priorities with X/Y, and character development kinda just fell behind. I'm really hoping they fix that with whatever they do next, remake or sequel, but at least we didn't end up with an Alder-like team for the Champion.

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    For me:

    Hardest Gym Leader: Clemont - His Heliolisk was a huge pain with its Speed, making it very hard for my team to counter. Braixen managed to survive and defeat it with Psyshock.

    Easiest Gym Leader: Grant - Just two Flying Press's from Hawlucha /story

    I didn't find any of the E4 laughably easy but Siebold and Gyarados and Barabarcle were a challenge for me.
    So I wasn't the only one who got a tripped up by that speed. I didn't have such a tough time, but I'd definitely put him up as one of the tough leaders in the game. Grant was my toughest because Honedge was literally the only one who could stand against him. Braixen was lucky to be strong enough to finish Tyrunt without a trouble at least, but Helioptile and Dunsparce couldn't do a thing.

    Easiest leader for me would have to be either Korrina or Ramos. My team got a little overleveled at that gym, so Doublade crushed her with Aerial Ace, and Ramos couldn't stand a chance against Braixen. Not sure about the Elite 4 myself. None of them were a joke to fight, but I don't think I had a particularly tough time against any of them. Maybe Malva, since Earthquake from Dunsparce was really my best move.
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