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    Quote Originally Posted by Saint Chewy View Post
    Well I knew that Steel would be super effective, I just wanted to see how well the defense would hold up. But since this sounds normal I guess I won't have to worry after all Thank you for the reply!
    Yeah, no problem.
    Also, here's a site too that has visual graphs to go along with stat numbers, especially useful if numbers alone don't help you out very much (like me): http://pokemondb.net/pokedex/gardevoir
    Just replace the pokemon name with whatever you need and it'll display it. Keep in mind that the max stat is determined of that particular beneficial nature + maxed out IVs/EVs (i.e Jolly = Maxed Speed, low Sp Attk).
    I haven't cross-checked with Serebii's quite yet to see if the stat changes for this generation, but it helps you understand how your Pokemon's stats stand.
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    Hi,

    I can't decide between two nature for Ferrothorn. Should I increase Def or SpD ? I am very puzzled with EVs too.
    Thank you for your advices!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stefan21 View Post
    I can't decide between two nature for Ferrothorn. Should I increase Def or SpD ? I am very puzzled with EVs too.
    Thank you for your advices!
    That's entirely dependent on what you want Ferrothorn to tank within the broader context of your team.

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    Yes, that makes sense. In fact, I only prepare Pokémon with good IVs and a good nature for now. When I'll have the most useful Pokémon in strategy, I will begin to make teams and I won't have to do a lot of breeding. I'll do both nature then. Thanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SoulSilver Eric View Post
    Whats the best method to breed to get a pokemon with 5IV's and an egg move?

    Like I want a cyndaquil with extrasensory, but the one I have for breeding and the father a vulpix with the move don't have perfect IV's. I was thinking I would just breed a cyndaquil until I get the perfect IV's I want and then breed the offspring (with Destiny Knot) with the vulpix for the egg move and hope that it has the IV's I want. Would that work, or would I just have to go about breeding each pokemon individually until their offspring have 3-4 IV's each and breed them (one with the egg move, the other a female cyndaquil) until I get a cyndaquil with 5IV's (-ATK) and its egg move.

    Still new to breeding for IV's, as just I recently breed an Adamant Dratini with 5IV (-SPA).
    Having two 6 IV parents gives you ~96% chance of hatching a 5 IV pokemon, so I'd recommend breeding each one individually until you have both parents with 6 IVs. It's inconvenient, but it's your best bet.
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    I have two Misdreavus, one with "outstanding" potential in HP, Attack, Defense, Sp. Def and Speed. The other also having "outstanding" potential in Attack, Sp. Atk, Sp. Def and Speed. Both Misdreavus have the same nature. I also have a perfect 6IV Ditto.

    How would I go about getting a 6IV Misdreavus with this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wraithe View Post
    I have two Misdreavus, one with "outstanding" potential in HP, Attack, Defense, Sp. Def and Speed. The other also having "outstanding" potential in Attack, Sp. Atk, Sp. Def and Speed. Both Misdreavus have the same nature. I also have a perfect 6IV Ditto.

    How would I go about getting a 6IV Misdreavus with this?
    Breed one of them with the Ditto and hope for the best. A pokemon that hatched from a 6 IV parent and a 5 IV parent will have about a 1.8% chance of being 6 IV, so you just have to hatch until you get one. Took me about 50 eggs, but that's a bit unlucky.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrThEsTaN View Post
    Breed one of them with the Ditto and hope for the best. A pokemon that hatched from a 6 IV parent and a 5 IV parent will have about a 1.8% chance of being 6 IV, so you just have to hatch until you get one. Took me about 50 eggs, but that's a bit unlucky.
    I ended up with a 3IV one. Not sure how that happened.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wraithe View Post
    I ended up with a 3IV one. Not sure how that happened.
    One IV was randomly generated, and the other two were non-31 IVs taken from the parents.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wraithe View Post
    I ended up with a 3IV one. Not sure how that happened.
    It's all in the odds. Like I said, it's only about 1.8% of the time that they will hatch 6 IV. Go to the In Game tab on the X&Y Hub on Smogon and look at the Breeding Perfect Pokemon article. It will answer all of your questions, and it even has a link to an IV Breeding Probability Calculator.
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    can someone please tell me how everyone keeps getting flawless shinies in this gen? I've been searching and can't find a guide or anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by help View Post
    can someone please tell me how everyone keeps getting flawless shinies in this gen? I've been searching and can't find a guide or anything.
    Flawless shinies? Like 31/31/31/31/31/31 Shiny?

    The only way to get many of those is sending through Pokebank from gen 5.
    Otherwise it's nearly impossible, unless they found a way to hack 3DS.

    What exactly is your proof for claiming that, if I may ask?

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    Quote Originally Posted by help View Post
    can someone please tell me how everyone keeps getting flawless shinies in this gen? I've been searching and can't find a guide or anything.
    Before Nintendo patched it people could find their shiny values. Players with matching shiny values could trade an egg and it would hatch 100% shiny. An egg's stats are deternine before hatching.

    Players breed a bunch of eggs, save the game, hatch the eggs, check for 5-6 perfect IVs, trade the good egg to the shiny buddy, the buddy hatches the 100% shiny and trades back. Bam, the player has a 5-6 perfect IV shiny pokemon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by help View Post
    can someone please tell me how everyone keeps getting flawless shinies in this gen? I've been searching and can't find a guide or anything.
    Actually quite simple. I'm hunting for one as I type this. Breed two flawless pokemon, with one being from another country. This is where luck comes into play. When you eventually hatch a shiny, it only has a ~3% chance of being flawless, but the rest of the time it is still guaranteed to be 5 IV. It's pretty much just advanced MM.
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    Haven't done any super training myself since I discovered horde training

    10000x faster and less tedious :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrThEsTaN View Post
    Actually quite simple. I'm hunting for one as I type this. Breed two flawless pokemon, with one being from another country. This is where luck comes into play. When you eventually hatch a shiny, it only has a ~3% chance of being flawless, but the rest of the time it is still guaranteed to be 5 IV. It's pretty much just advanced MM.
    This is what I'm doing but I have a 5 perfect IV gastly and 4 perfect IV foreign ditto so my odds aren't amazing for having an amazing shiny gastly but hopefully luck will be on my side.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Infinity Edge View Post
    Flawless shinies? Like 31/31/31/31/31/31 Shiny?

    The only way to get many of those is sending through Pokebank from gen 5.
    Otherwise it's nearly impossible, unless they found a way to hack 3DS.

    What exactly is your proof for claiming that, if I may ask?
    I have a 5IV Shiny Lucario which took breeding 322 eggs using MM. This egg took me ages, but I didn't trade with a friend, the best way to get a Shiny near flawless or 5IV is Masuda Method with 2 6IV pokemon with 1 holding destiny knot other with everstone. that guarentees a 5 IV egg just have to hope you don't get unlucky and have missing speed on a sweeper or defense on a wall.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cuthrout View Post
    I have a 5IV Shiny Lucario which took breeding 322 eggs using MM. This egg took me ages, but I didn't trade with a friend, the best way to get a Shiny near flawless or 5IV is Masuda Method with 2 6IV pokemon with 1 holding destiny knot other with everstone. that guarentees a 5 IV egg just have to hope you don't get unlucky and have missing speed on a sweeper or defense on a wall.
    But he/she said lots of flawless shinies. Not just one, obtained with sweat and tears like yours, but multiple and probably obtained very easily.

    I think Buttons's post above explains it quite well though.

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    Update: I have now hatched 450 eggs in my quest for a 6 or 5 IV shiny Cyndaquil. Still nothing.
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    I really have no clue what to do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZimmermansLegit View Post
    I really have no clue what to do.
    You'll have to be a bit more specific so people are able to better assist you with what you need help with. ;p
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    can someone give me some insight as to how so many people are able to get pokemon with perfect IVs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by help View Post
    can someone give me some insight as to how so many people are able to get pokemon with perfect IVs?
    It's very easy to do, once you get the hang of it.

    They are breeding with Destiny Knot; Successful consecutive breeding of 2 pokemon with 3 to 4 to 5 good IV leads to obtaining 6 good IV pokemon, and it's no mystery nowadays. Unless you're talking about perfect IV for pokemon who can't breed, that would be a little more suspicious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by help View Post
    can someone give me some insight as to how so many people are able to get pokemon with perfect IVs?
    Quote Originally Posted by Infinity Edge View Post
    It's very easy to do, once you get the hang of it.

    They are breeding with Destiny Knot; Successful consecutive breeding of 2 pokemon with 3 to 4 to 5 good IV leads to obtaining 6 good IV pokemon, and it's no mystery nowadays. Unless you're talking about perfect IV for pokemon who can't breed, that would be a little more suspicious.
    Even with using a ditto getting a perfect IV pokemon isn't that hard, if you spend time and effort into breeding IV's you can get perfect pokemn very easily, usually I swap out the female about 2-3 times depending on the egg IV's and then I'm getting rarely 4 mostly 5 IV pokemon. Getting a 6IV male is the key to breeding IV's fast.
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    And now I have 500 non-shiny Cyndaquil that I've hatched.
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