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    Quote Originally Posted by VahnDeathHeart View Post
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    Ok destiny knot tranfers five stats right so why am i getting only two
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    Quote Originally Posted by VahnDeathHeart View Post
    Ok destiny knot tranfers five stats right so why am i getting only two
    What EVs do your parents have? The Destiny Knot transfers 5 IVs BETWEEN the two parents - so 5 out of the possible 12. The best way to get 5 31 IVs is to have a 6IV Ditto and a 5 IV parent in the DayCare. Even then, I often get 4 IV Pokemon from a 6IV + 5IV parent when using the Destiny Knot. This happens because the Destiny Knot can choose the same stat twice, giving you only 4 out of the 6 possible 31s. If you have two 5 IV parents in the Daycare, it can choose the same non-31 stat twice, and then choose the other non-31 stat. This will give you a 3 IV offspring with two 5 IV parents.

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    Quote Originally Posted by varanus_komodoensis View Post
    What EVs do your parents have? The Destiny Knot transfers 5 IVs BETWEEN the two parents - so 5 out of the possible 12. The best way to get 5 31 IVs is to have a 6IV Ditto and a 5 IV parent in the DayCare. Even then, I often get 4 IV Pokemon from a 6IV + 5IV parent when using the Destiny Knot. This happens because the Destiny Knot can choose the same stat twice, giving you only 4 out of the 6 possible 31s. If you have two 5 IV parents in the Daycare, it can choose the same non-31 stat twice, and then choose the other non-31 stat. This will give you a 3 IV offspring with two 5 IV parents.
    I know i was testing with Magikarp to know. and it was a fresh Magikarp, male and a reset female what to breed but i was only seeing the stats from the mother ....
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    Ok found out what was wrong wasn't accounting for nature values. went and caught 2quirky.
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    EDIT: To clarify, the hatched Pokemon's base stats are between 4 and 6. I was wondering if they're supposed to be that way, or if they're supposed to be 31.

    I'm having a problem with my Pokemon's inherited stats. I can't seem to get a base stat of 31 to pass down to the hatched Pokemon. Both parents have flawless stats of at least 31, one is holding the destiny knot. I've hatched several that have inherited the flawless stats, but they're the usual 4-6. What might I be doing wrong, or have I not been trying long enough?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hellys_Hellrazor View Post
    I'm having a problem with my Pokemon's inherited stats. I can't seem to get a base stat of 31 to pass down to the hatched Pokemon. Both parents have flawless stats of at least 31, one is holding the destiny knot. I've hatched several that have inherited the flawless stats, but they're the usual 4-6. What might I be doing wrong, or have I not been trying long enough?
    Your post kinda confused me~
    1) The 5 IV that the Destiny Knot picks are random, sometimes you can get an offspring with 4 IVs even with two 6 IV parents because Destiny Knot picked 2 of the same stat.
    2) The 6th stat is completely random. (If you're using Destiny Knot, otherwise 3 stats are random, as in not passed down from parents)
    3) You can pass down a specific IV with the power items (IE: Power Anklet for speed)
    4) Other than that you just have to keep trying and hatching eggs until you get the right IVs.


    Even with a 6 and 5 IV parents I sometimes have to hatch 20-50 eggs just to get the 5 IV wants I want.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hellys_Hellrazor View Post
    I'm having a problem with my Pokemon's inherited stats. I can't seem to get a base stat of 31 to pass down to the hatched Pokemon. Both parents have flawless stats of at least 31, one is holding the destiny knot. I've hatched several that have inherited the flawless stats, but they're the usual 4-6. What might I be doing wrong, or have I not been trying long enough?
    So, the offspring are hatching with 4-6 flawless IVs? If so, I don't exactly see what the problem is.

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    Okay, I'm kind of new to EV/IV's. I know how to get EV's, that's simple enough. But how exactly do you get a pokemon with good IV's? I know that you can pass good IV's down to offspring, but how do you get a parent with them? Just catch and hope they have high IV's?
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    In one way, yes. the man in the Kiloude city pokemon centre is your best friend. he will assess your pokemon and will tell you if a particular stat "cannot be beat" if that's the case then that pokemon has a perfect IV in that stat.

    Ideally in order to get going you need one ditto with 2 perfect IV's. that can be bred with whatever pokemon until you hatch an egg with that perfect IV stat. that offspring is then bred again with the same ditto until the new offspring has both perfect IV's... this can be replicated with different dittos over and over until you eventually hatch a pokemon with pewrfect 5IV's. ordinarily you don't need 6IV's as most pokemon either specialise in either attack or special attack, so a 5IV 'mon is more or less flawless.

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    For those with EV training expertise:

    If I have Pokerus and a power item attached, I should only need around 5 hoard battles maximize a stat correct? Does it work the same way using exp share? Thanks!


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    Quote Originally Posted by PeteDHeat View Post
    For those with EV training expertise:

    If I have Pokerus and a power item attached, I should only need around 5 hoard battles maximize a stat correct? Does it work the same way using exp share? Thanks!
    Yeah I think they do, just tested it somewhat and it took longer with Pokerus/Macho Brace to max out my SpA than it did to max out Speed with Pokerus/Power Anklet.
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    My xerneas is modest and i was thinking of ev training it what would be a better build for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VahnDeathHeart View Post
    My xerneas is modest and i was thinking of ev training it what would be a better build for it.
    Could just go for the classic 252SPA & 252SPE?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Milennin View Post
    Could just go for the classic 252SPA & 252SPE?
    And waste that beautiful HP stat on a crappy speed one? An EV-spread of 252HP/252SpAtk/4Def would make more sense, as it'd capitalize on its two best stats (HP and SpAtk) whilst allowing it to set up geomancy over and over again. Speed isn't really a concern, as with base 99 you'll be falling short of outspeeding a lot of things.
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    Well while i was waiting for some answers and i thank the 2 that did i went and trained a shiny relaxed bagon i caught a while back. it was relaxed nature so i gave it 210/200/100/0/0/0 what you think possible defensive wall?
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    Quote Originally Posted by VahnDeathHeart View Post
    Well while i was waiting for some answers and i thank the 2 that did i went and trained a shiny relaxed bagon i caught a while back. it was relaxed nature so i gave it 210/200/100/0/0/0 what you think possible defensive wall?
    Unless you're using it in NU as a physical wall (which depending on what happens with the tiers will either be outclassed by either floette or regirock) it could prove somewhat useful. Using it as a salamence though, ugh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mye View Post
    Unless you're using it in NU as a physical wall (which depending on what happens with the tiers will either be outclassed by either floette or regirock) it could prove somewhat useful. Using it as a salamence though, ugh.
    Well i know its not a common build its better than nothing specially with roost and steel wing for ice possible trick room it because its slower than most of the pokemon I've seen used...
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    Quote Originally Posted by VahnDeathHeart View Post
    Well i know its not a common build its better than nothing specially with roost and steel wing for ice possible trick room it because its slower than most of the pokemon I've seen used...
    Salamence has base 100 speed, which is basically the "standard" that every pokemon measures up to. In trick room, you'll be outsped and killed by basically anything not named greninja, and with that nature you'll be outsped outside of trick room by basically any common scarf user. That, and with the new fairy type dragons aren't really that good defensively now outside of Dragonite who even then is rarely used as it is. Eviolite shelgon would probably be your best bet at making a competitive pokemon out of that, as with an EV spread of 252HP/216atk/40spatk and a moveset of Shadow Claw/Double Edge/Fire Blast/Dragon Claw it can be a decent bulky wallbreaker capable of defeating all the Physical ghosts/grass/water types which will undeniably be roaming NU in the near future.
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    For the most part, they're basically just standardish OU mons; I'm not sure what you're looking for.

    Do you have a specific strategy in mind, or do you want to explain what your movesets and stat spreads accomplish?

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    Noob question sorry, first time ev training

    If turn on exp all share, and I don't put the pokemon in the first slot.
    And I find a horde and kill them... Will the pokemon I wish to ev train receive 100% of all the evs via exp share? (pokemon x)
    Or will it receive 50% of the total evs???

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    Quote Originally Posted by W4ck View Post
    Noob question sorry, first time ev training

    If turn on exp all share, and I don't put the pokemon in the first slot.
    And I find a horde and kill them... Will the pokemon I wish to ev train receive 100% of all the evs via exp share? (pokemon x)
    Or will it receive 50% of the total evs???
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    I am currently making a competitive team, and have a question about S.T.

    If I have my level 1 Klefki, and super train it so the bar is filled on S.T. then level it up to level 50 in wild, and then use it in a competitive battle, will it have all the stats it should? E.g., will the 252 on say HP be accounted for?

    Sorry if this doesn't make sense.

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    If it's Super Trained completely - that is, its EVs total to 510 - then you can't alter its EVs further without intentionally lowering its EVs first in some way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Siebold View Post
    I am currently making a competitive team, and have a question about S.T.

    If I have my level 1 Klefki, and super train it so the bar is filled on S.T. then level it up to level 50 in wild, and then use it in a competitive battle, will it have all the stats it should? E.g., will the 252 on say HP be accounted for?

    Sorry if this doesn't make sense.

    Yes, it will "have all the stats it should". It doesn't matter what level gets all its EVs, in the end it will have the stats you worked towards.
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