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    Quote Originally Posted by Pokemaniac24 View Post
    I'll have to see it for myself when it's up.

    Sounded like another shippy episode to me. Serena encouraging Ash, Ash saying something that confuses her at the end, Ash saying something during the Gym Battle that reminded Serena of their past. I knew the ship would be a big deal but they are really laying it on thick now. It's a good time to be an Amourshipper!



    There is going to be complaining either way, Robert. If Fletching starred in the battle and outshined Pikachu, people would complain that Pikachu definitely reset but if Pikachu stars, people will say he's a battle hog. Unless you are suggesting he shouldn't have used Pikachu at all in this battle.
    Pretty much one person and a bunch of one time posters who seem to appear and disappear as fast as they got here.

    Pikachu has no reason and I mean NO reason to battle Vivillion. He got his revenge on Surskit which was all he should of got. Fletchling needed to get revenge on Vivillion, Pikachu had nothing to do with that battle and literally stole it for no reason other then hurr durr buy our Pikachu merch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pokemaniac24 View Post
    No, Ash is thinking about Misty! That's why!

    Just kidding, Amourshippers! Don't Neg Rep me!

    .....Oh, wait! Ya can't :P

    That's a fair enough point, Cressy but you're much older than Ash so more time has gone by for you when you were six. But I'll still buy that especially with all the people Ash has met and Serena does look a bit older now and she's wearing different clothing so maybe that's why as well.
    Umm, so? What if he's 20 or 10? You don't remember everyone you meet, do you? Serena wasn't as important to Ash because he was being himself with a random girl. But in Serena's eyes, he was helping her, so she remembered him well from that incident.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pokemaniac24 View Post
    Ash saying something that confuses her at the end
    I think Ash asked about what Serena's plans are for now which surprised her (since she clearly doesn't have any as of yet).

    Quote Originally Posted by JD View Post
    Locormus mentioned a scene where Froakie hit Fletchling what happened?
    Not sure, but maybe Fletchling was getting sleepy or tired and Froakie hit it to help it stay focused.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dracoflare View Post
    Umm, so? What if he's 20 or 10? You don't remember everyone you meet, do you? Serena wasn't as important to Ash because he was being himself with a random girl. But in Serena's eyes, he was helping her, so she remembered him well from that incident.
    There is still a difference. If Cresselia92 was 10, she'd still have a much higher chance of remembering the girl she swam with than now when the time is further away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by playerking View Post
    The episode starts off with a recap of the last episode.

    Then the opening starts.

    The episode then replays what happened at the end of the last episode with Serena talking to Ash.

    It appears Ash doesn't remember Serena and she is a bit sad.
    Aww, man! Why Ash, why?

    Noivern, Helioptile and Dedenne are eating along with Alexa (I think she was there), Bonnie and Clemont on a bench under some shade.

    Alex laughs for some reason and then he continues his training session.

    It is now the afternoon and Ash is still training, so they decide to take a rest and have something to eat.

    They go to the Santalune Pokemon Center for a meal.

    Back on the battlefield, Clemont reveals another invention of his and Ash has those sparkly Bishouen eyes.

    The invention is a cannon that shoots out balls of web just in order to resemble the attack Sticky Web.

    The machine suddenly stops working, so Clemont goes to check it out. It goes to fire in Clemont face, so he aims it up into the sky.

    The web then falls back onto the cannon and it causes the next ball of web to be stuck and it makes the invention explode.

    Ash decided to bring out Froakie and use Froakie's foam as a substitute. Good thinking Ash.
    It seems like Clemont made that gadget for help Ash training for his rematch against Viola. Even though his gadget exploded, it ended up giving Ash an idea of training his Pokémon.

    Ash then has a chat to his Pokemon before Serena talks to him again.
    I wonder what did she tell Ash..... Probably she's telling him to do his best in his battle against Viola.

    It's the next day and Ash re-challenges Viola to a gym battle.

    Violva brings out Surskit and Ash chooses Pikachu to battle first.

    Surskit shoots some sticky webs and Pikachu dodges them and uses Thunderbolt, but Surskit uses Protect.

    Surskit goes to use Ice Beam, but Ash tells Pikachu to stop it or block it and Pikahcu hops onto Surskit and tries to redirect the attack.

    The Ice Beam then freezes the trees on the outside of the battlefield and the battlefield as well.

    Surskit then circles around Pikachu and goes to fire an attack.

    Pikachu ends up winning the battle and Violva recalls Surskit and then then Ash recalls Pikachu for Fletchling.

    Viola then brings out her Vivillon.

    Fletchling goes in for an attack but Vivillon uses Pshychic and forces Fletchling to stay stuck on he ground.

    Fletchling uses Razor Wind and Vivillon uses Solarbeam, which knocks Fletchling out.

    Ash chooses Pikachu again.
    This seems a pretty good battle so far....

    Ash says something that Serena remembers Ash saying to her as a kid.
    Oh, another flashback!

    Vivillon fires a SolarBeam and Pikachu uses Thunderbolt

    Pikachu uses Electro Ball to clear the field of that green gas.

    Vivillon's wings have a bit of ice on them and then Pikachu fires a Thunderbolt which knocks Vivillon out, making Ash the winner.
    Wow, seems like a really cool battle, both of Them are using smart strategies! The ice came in handy after all.

    Ash asks Serena something and she is sort of shocked/confused.
    Oh.........another cliffhanger.

    This seems like a really good episode, I gotta watch it somehow. Thanks for the episode summary, playerking!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pokemaniac24 View Post
    There is still a difference. If Cresselia92 was 10, she'd still have a much higher chance of remembering the girl she swam with than now when the time is further away.
    Of course she would, but what if the girl she swam with (lol?) wasn't so important to her? Then she would obviously not remember her after 4 years or so. Heck, she probably wouldn't even remember after one year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dracoflare View Post
    Of course she would, but what if the girl she swam with (lol?) wasn't so important to her? Then she would obviously not remember her after 4 years or so. Heck, she probably wouldn't even remember after one year.
    Okay, I'll give you that. No one's going to remember everyone they met.
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    Regarding Satoshi and Serena's past, they both attended Professor Okido's Pokémon Summer Camp together. Satoshi remembers the camp, but couldn't remember anything about meeting Serena there.

    The next episode preview showed more flashbacks, so it's obvious she'll make more attempts to make him remember next week.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lucario At Service View Post
    I think Ash asked about what Serena's plans are for now which surprised her since she clearly doesn't have any as of yet.
    It was more that the episode ended before she got to answer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1rkhachatryan View Post
    Pikachu has no reason and I mean NO reason to battle Vivillion. He got his revenge on Surskit which was all he should of got. Fletchling needed to get revenge on Vivillion, Pikachu had nothing to do with that battle and literally stole it for no reason other then hurr durr buy our Pikachu merch.
    Though, i agree that Pikachu getting 2 wins is a bit too much considering the possible wins it could get later on.

    But i would say one thing. It not always about revenge battles in the anime. The most important thing is that Ash and his Pokemon's work together to get a win. Only when there is a special circumstance that we should talk about revenge matches.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucario At Service View Post
    Though, i agree that Pikachu getting 2 wins is a bit too much considering the possible wins it could get later on.

    But i would say one thing. It not always about revenge battles in the anime. The most important thing is that Ash and his Pokemon's work together to get a win. Only when there is a special circumstance that we should talk about revenge matches.
    Pretty much in every single rematch battle, the same pokemon battled the same pokemon other then against Brawly(which was stupid anyways).

    I mean you train so you can rebattle with the pokemon who creamed you, not a pokemon you didn't even battle.
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    Pretty good episode, loved the training scenes and Ash using more of that brain of his
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1rkhachatryan View Post
    Pretty much in every single rematch battle, the same pokemon battled the same pokemon other then against Brawly(which was stupid anyways).

    I mean you train so you can rebattle with the pokemon who creamed you, not a pokemon you didn't even battle.
    By that logic Aipom should've taken down Roark's Rampardos, but I digress.

    thought that the match was well done, Pikachu really knew what it was doing this time as was Ash.

    Not really surprised about Ash's answer to Serena, he's kinda been busy with other things to keep up with other affairs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Almighty Zard View Post
    By that logic Aipom should've taken down Roark's Rampardos, but I digress.

    thought that the match was well done, Pikachu really knew what it was doing this time as was Ash.

    Not really surprised about Ash's answer to Serena, he's kinda been busy with other things to keep up with other affairs.
    If I'm remembering correctly, didn't Cranidos take out everybody but Pikachu?? And he still got revenge on On if who was the one who took him out which is my point.

    Also the other BS about this episode was that Fletchling's training was essentially useless -_-....
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1rkhachatryan View Post
    If I'm remembering correctly, didn't Cranidos take out everybody but Pikachu?? And he still got revenge on On if who was the one who took him out which is my point.

    Also the other BS about this episode was that Fletchling's training was essentially useless -_-....
    nope,

    Cranidos beat aipom, forced Pikachu to be withdrawn for Turtwig who kicked it's butt, then Onix came in and took them both out.
    In the rematch, Pikachu got Onix, Aipom faught and defeated Geodude(who wasn't even in the first battle) then Rampardos came out, took out Aipom easily, then Pikachu, and got beaten by Turtwig a second time.

    There's really no point in making logic for revenge/rematch battles with gym leaders on who does what, you get a kill in one fight that don't mean you entitled to one in the rematch.

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    Is it just me, or did Alexa notice Serena's feelings for Ash, & even briefly talked about it to Serena during the gym battle?


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    My reaction to this gym battle;
    "Fletchling... lost !?!"


    Ahah, anyway, very nice episode! I'll do my review later, though I think the interactions between Serena and Ash were amazing. Can't wait for next week!
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    Oh well....pikachu got both wins. Let's just hope it doesn't.really.do much against grant, although that probably won't be for at least another 20-25 episodes.
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    Great episode. I was actually expecting Ash to figure everything out during the training session, but I'm happy that they left room for him to strategize in the battle.

    Pikachu getting both wins was fine by me. It's only the first gym and if things go my way he'll be out of focus until gym 8 and the Pokémon League.

    I know it's only been 6 episodes but doesn't it seem like they're only using Pokémon when necessary, as opposed to giving the market-ably cute ones tons of screen time? It's a lot like AG in that regard. There isn't really anyone hogging any screen time in favour of merchandising like there is in other series. I mean, Dedenne didn't get any focus at all, he was just in the background being himself. He's not barging in like Axew and Piplup did.

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    So frostbite+electro ball?

    Instant win.
    Bit sad fletchling didn't get a win here but I don't think that's bias against fletchling...
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1rkhachatryan View Post
    This is complete ********. Seriously the writers favoritism is astounding, so not only did Pikachu steal a battle, but also got revenge, HAH, what a joke *rolls eyes*....

    Hope the supporters are happy, their precious star they all defended did exactly what we all concluded he would do.
    I am refusing to keep up with this anime for as long as the writers insist upon serving bowls of hot diarrhea like this pathetic episode. Pikachu winning twice is ABSOLUTELY unacceptable. Anyone that justifies these amateurs needs to really wake up and smell the fecal matter. They really do.

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    Seriously your whining is annoying.
    It isn't half as annoying as either Pikachu viciously stealing the wins from other Pokemon (that it has not right to) or people like you with no sense making out the writers are not thoroughly incapable.

    As long as people like you carry on watching the Anime, the writers don't have to change. I WILL NOT restart watching the anime (which I stopped watching during the wet fart that was BW) until it ceases to be 'The Pikachu Show'.
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    Pretty much one person and a bunch of one time posters who seem to appear and disappear as fast as they got here.

    Pikachu has no reason and I mean NO reason to battle Vivillion. He got his revenge on Surskit which was all he should of got. Fletchling needed to get revenge on Vivillion, Pikachu had nothing to do with that battle and literally stole it for no reason other then hurr durr buy our Pikachu merch.
    You are 100% right. I wouldn't buy Pikachu merchandise if someone paid me to.
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    The way some of us act abut Pikachu winning makes it sound like we're at the end of the saga and Fletchling has had a worse run than Palpitoad. We've got 100+ episodes to go guys. Fletching and Froakie's time in the sun will come (not to mention Fletchling already got a gym win and Froakie has done a lot of fighting so far).

    But Ash's reaction to Serena's question was about what I expected. Gotta milk that for the whole arc. The battle was also pretty neat and you've gotta love that group picture at the end.
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    Quote Originally Posted by naughtynun View Post
    It isn't half as annoying as either Pikachu viciously stealing the wins from other Pokemon (that it has not right to) or people like you with no sense making out the writers are not thoroughly incapable.
    It...has no right to?

    Pikachu...has no right to win over fletchling?

    No right?

    I think you need to calm yourself and take a break from the anime.

    I think the battle could have gone a bit better or longer in terms of attacks to be hit by, but overall the stragety was sound and it's not like the winning broke my suspenion of disbelief...
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    Quote Originally Posted by naughtynun View Post
    I am refusing to keep up with this anime for as long as the writers insist upon serving bowls of hot diarrhea like this pathetic episode. Pikachu winning twice is ABSOLUTELY unacceptable. Anyone that justifies these amateurs needs to really wake up and smell the fecal matter. They really do.



    It isn't half as annoying as either Pikachu viciously stealing the wins from other Pokemon (that it has not right to) or people like you with no sense making out the writers are not thoroughly incapable.

    As long as people like you carry on watching the Anime, the writers don't have to change. I WILL NOT restart watching the anime (which I stopped watching during the wet fart that was BW) until it ceases to be 'The Pikachu Show'.


    You are 100% right. I wouldn't buy Pikachu merchandise if someone paid me to.
    There's really little pikachu can do over the next two, maybe even three gyms, so let's see what happens until then. Now if pikachu just goes into grant's gym and rolls over both of those rock dinos without a scratch, then we have problem.
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