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    Hey guys, thanks for your advice earlier,
    I changed my team to the following, but am still having trouble. Dragonite is pretty amazing most of the time, but on the occasions that it dies I found that my other pokemon don't really come anywhere close to matching it.

    Dragonite holding Weakness Policy
    Adamant nature with Multiscales
    31 IVs in HP, Attack, Defence, Special Defence, Speed
    EVs 252Atk/252Spd/4... Cant remember?
    Dragon Dance
    Earthquake
    Dragon Claw
    Fire Punch

    Aegislash holding Leftovers
    Brave Nature with Stance Change
    31 IVs in... I can't remember but definitely Attack, Defence, Special Defence and 0 IV's in Speed
    EVs 252Atk/128Def/128SpDef
    Iron Head
    King's Shield
    Shadow Sneak
    Swords Dance

    Alakazam holding Alakazite
    Modest Nature with Synchronise
    31 IVs in Special Attack and Speed
    EVs 252SpAtk/252Spd
    Shadow Ball
    Dazzling Gleam
    Energy Ball
    Psychic

    Can anyone suggest some Pokemon changes to support Dragonite, so that if he dies I don't fold like a deck of cards? Thanks!

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    Wow, with my new team that is mostly immune to statut condition except Confusion and Infatuation, now in that Super Single Iam starting to get alot of pkmn with Swagger....

    I lost at my 32streak because of a Starmie who got 2 critical hit!
    The first with Psychic on my MegaVenusaur who resisted it! But Giga Drain didnt kill it....and another critical hit with surf on my Gliscor..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shieldsy View Post
    Hey guys, thanks for your advice earlier,
    I changed my team to the following, but am still having trouble. Dragonite is pretty amazing most of the time, but on the occasions that it dies I found that my other pokemon don't really come anywhere close to matching it.

    Dragonite holding Weakness Policy
    Adamant nature with Multiscales
    31 IVs in HP, Attack, Defence, Special Defence, Speed
    EVs 252Atk/252Spd/4... Cant remember?
    Dragon Dance
    Earthquake
    Dragon Claw
    Fire Punch

    Aegislash holding Leftovers
    Brave Nature with Stance Change
    31 IVs in... I can't remember but definitely Attack, Defence, Special Defence and 0 IV's in Speed
    EVs 252Atk/128Def/128SpDef
    Iron Head
    King's Shield
    Shadow Sneak
    Swords Dance

    Alakazam holding Alakazite
    Modest Nature with Synchronise
    31 IVs in Special Attack and Speed
    EVs 252SpAtk/252Spd
    Shadow Ball
    Dazzling Gleam
    Energy Ball
    Psychic

    Can anyone suggest some Pokemon changes to support Dragonite, so that if he dies I don't fold like a deck of cards? Thanks!
    Considering the fragility of Alakazam, let it hold focus sash,this would guarantee a 2 hit Ko instead of 1 unless the opoonenet use skills like pin missles, dual chop etc.
    You can have other better pokemon to mega evolve in that case. I personally think M. Garchomp would be better as the speed is much higher than Dragonite. M.Charizard X is pretty useful as well as a substitute.
    The problem with your Dragonite would likely be the speed, a strong and fast Ice type could OH-KO Dragonite easily even with Multiscales,and considering its speed, it can be revenge killed easily
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shieldsy View Post
    Hey guys, thanks for your advice earlier,
    I changed my team to the following, but am still having trouble. Dragonite is pretty amazing most of the time, but on the occasions that it dies I found that my other pokemon don't really come anywhere close to matching it.

    Dragonite holding Weakness Policy
    Adamant nature with Multiscales
    31 IVs in HP, Attack, Defence, Special Defence, Speed
    EVs 252Atk/252Spd/4... Cant remember?
    Dragon Dance
    Earthquake
    Dragon Claw
    Fire Punch

    Aegislash holding Leftovers
    Brave Nature with Stance Change
    31 IVs in... I can't remember but definitely Attack, Defence, Special Defence and 0 IV's in Speed
    EVs 252Atk/128Def/128SpDef
    Iron Head
    King's Shield
    Shadow Sneak
    Swords Dance

    Alakazam holding Alakazite
    Modest Nature with Synchronise
    31 IVs in Special Attack and Speed
    EVs 252SpAtk/252Spd
    Shadow Ball
    Dazzling Gleam
    Energy Ball
    Psychic

    Can anyone suggest some Pokemon changes to support Dragonite, so that if he dies I don't fold like a deck of cards? Thanks!
    Do you have a Toxic orb if so I would give Gliscor a shot
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    I am also after DW: Adamant: , Adamant:

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    Quote Originally Posted by coolerdynastic View Post
    Considering the fragility of Alakazam, let it hold focus sash,this would guarantee a 2 hit Ko instead of 1 unless the opoonenet use skills like pin missles, dual chop etc.
    You can have other better pokemon to mega evolve in that case. I personally think M. Garchomp would be better as the speed is much higher than Dragonite. M.Charizard X is pretty useful as well as a substitute.
    The problem with your Dragonite would likely be the speed, a strong and fast Ice type could OH-KO Dragonite easily even with Multiscales,and considering its speed, it can be revenge killed easily
    I think I may have phrased things badly, I like Dragonite in my team at the moment (Might get rid of him later if things don't work out haha). I'm actually looking for other pokemon instead of Aegislash and/or Alakazam. Are there pokemon out there that would work better in a team with my dragonite as the lead? Sorry if I was unclear before lol...

    This is the Dragonite I'm talking about: (for people that are new to the conversation haha)

    Dragonite holding Weakness Policy
    Adamant nature with Multiscales
    31 IVs in HP, Attack, Defence, Special Defence, Speed
    EVs 252Atk/252Spd/4... Cant remember?
    Dragon Dance
    Earthquake
    Dragon Claw
    Fire Punch

    Otherwise M-Garchomp and Gliscor are some good alternatives.

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    what about Technician Scizor?

    I mean he can take all the moves that are strong against Dragonite and does have great coverage with steel, bug, dark, flying type moves?

    has a 4X weakness to fire but has 8 resistances.

    I would suggest him as with Gliscor and Garchomp all you would need is an ice type to storm thru your team since all 3 are 4X weak to ice.
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    Hi can i ask for help here about the Battle Maison ?

    i was playing around the other day on the Super difficulty around 20+

    i fought an evolved form of aipom and it used "thief" and stole one of my items.

    any idea how to get it back or something?

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    It will be obtained once the battle ended
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    Quote Originally Posted by kaizeruenis View Post
    Hi can i ask for help here about the Battle Maison ?

    i was playing around the other day on the Super difficulty around 20+

    i fought an evolved form of aipom and it used "thief" and stole one of my items.

    any idea how to get it back or something?
    You don't lose the item, it's given back once your finished with the battle.
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    So I've been planning a team for the Battle Maison, since my current team isn't winning consistently.

    (Mega) Absol with Absolite
    Adamant nature(I don't have a ditto with Jolly)
    Sucker Punch
    X-Scissor
    Play Rough
    Psycho Cut

    Gooey Goodra with Expert Belt
    Modest nature
    Dragon Pulse
    Sludge Bomb
    Ice Beam
    Thunderbolt

    Technician Scizor with Life Orb
    Adamant nature
    Bullet Punch
    X-Scissor
    Brick Break
    Swords Dance


    Any thoughts on how I could improve this theoretical team?

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    Does anyone have an recommendations for a good moveset for a Protean Froakie?

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    What about Ice Beam, surf, Dark Pulse and U-Turn?
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    I despise this thing. Much like all "Battle Tower"s I despise this anti team crap. Oh, you're first poke a set up abuser? Heard you like a fast taunters at the front of every team. . .
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    Quote Originally Posted by MuhFugginMoose View Post
    I despise this thing. Much like all "Battle Tower"s I despise this anti team crap. Oh, you're first poke a set up abuser? Heard you like a fast taunters at the front of every team. . .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shieldsy View Post
    I think I may have phrased things badly, I like Dragonite in my team at the moment (Might get rid of him later if things don't work out haha). I'm actually looking for other pokemon instead of Aegislash and/or Alakazam. Are there pokemon out there that would work better in a team with my dragonite as the lead? Sorry if I was unclear before lol...

    This is the Dragonite I'm talking about: (for people that are new to the conversation haha)

    Dragonite holding Weakness Policy
    Adamant nature with Multiscales
    31 IVs in HP, Attack, Defence, Special Defence, Speed
    EVs 252Atk/252Spd/4... Cant remember?
    Dragon Dance
    Earthquake
    Dragon Claw
    Fire Punch

    Otherwise M-Garchomp and Gliscor are some good alternatives.
    A fairy check would be helpful, I would second the Scizor comment. At that point they are covering each other pretty well resistance/type coverage wise. Let's you put in a third pretty much of your choosing (maybe a Special Sweeper, or utility?)

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    Not entirely sure if this is the correct thread for this, but does it matter whether you fight in the super singles/doubles/whatever or the normal singles/doubles/whatever to upgrade your trainer card?
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    Thanks guys to all who've replied - nearly there now... Hopefully...

    Dragonite holding Weakness Policy
    Adamant nature with Multiscales
    31 IVs in HP, Attack, Defence, Special Defence, Speed
    EVs 252Atk/252Spd/4... Cant remember?
    Dragon Dance
    Earthquake
    Dragon Claw
    Fire Punch

    Scizor holding ??
    Adamant nature with Technician
    Bullet Punch
    Fury Cutter
    Brick Break
    Aerial Ace

    Question: is it worth having technician and lower power moves such as bullet punch and fury cutter, or is it better to just go with swarm ability and use higher power STAB moves? Thoughts?

    I was considering having Lucario as a third, maybe a mega evolution? if so I'd probably get Scizor to hold an occa berry (if I can find one) Any other ideas? Thoughts? Should I mega Scizor instead? Also: lucario is a pain to breed -.- any alternatives would be welcomed!

    Thanks for being patient :3
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    technician is superior

    I mean with technician he gets priority move in Bullet Punch boosted to 60 BP and when you pair that with 120 base attack stat that is going to hurt a lot.

    Pursuit could be an option also for the psychic and ghost users and give them a 60 bp (120 bp if they withdraw)

    on the abilities
    Swarm only activates when When HP is below 1/3rd and only bug moves are powered up which leaves Bullet Punch weak

    Technician activates on any move that is 60 BP or lower
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shieldsy View Post
    Thanks guys to all who've replied - nearly there now... Hopefully...

    Dragonite holding Weakness Policy
    Adamant nature with Multiscales
    31 IVs in HP, Attack, Defence, Special Defence, Speed
    EVs 252Atk/252Spd/4... Cant remember?
    Dragon Dance
    Earthquake
    Dragon Claw
    Fire Punch

    Scizor holding ??
    Adamant nature with Technician
    Bullet Punch
    Fury Cutter
    Brick Break
    Aerial Ace

    Question: is it worth having technician and lower power moves such as bullet punch and fury cutter, or is it better to just go with swarm ability and use higher power STAB moves? Thoughts?

    I was considering having Lucario as a third, maybe a mega evolution? if so I'd probably get Scizor to hold an occa berry (if I can find one) Any other ideas? Thoughts? Should I mega Scizor instead? Also: lucario is a pain to breed -.- any alternatives would be welcomed!

    Thanks for being patient :3
    for the item I would suggest Life Orb
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    I am also after DW: Adamant: , Adamant:

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    Quote Originally Posted by shinyarceus4 View Post
    So I've been planning a team for the Battle Maison, since my current team isn't winning consistently.

    (Mega) Absol with Absolite
    Adamant nature(I don't have a ditto with Jolly)
    Sucker Punch
    X-Scissor
    Play Rough
    Psycho Cut

    Gooey Goodra with Expert Belt
    Modest nature
    Dragon Pulse
    Sludge Bomb
    Ice Beam
    Thunderbolt

    Technician Scizor with Life Orb
    Adamant nature
    Bullet Punch
    X-Scissor
    Brick Break
    Swords Dance


    Any thoughts on how I could improve this theoretical team?
    For Goodra
    I would use Assult Vest instead of Expert Belt to give it a lot of Special Defense to survive more Ice Beam.

    For Absol
    You could use Sword Dance instead of X-Scissor as X-Scissor didn't cover much and if you successfully get one Sword Dance, it could be dangerous.

    Hope this help

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    Seriously I got pissed off at my 43th streak in Super Double Battle
    Here is a summary of my team
    Charizard Y- Dragon Pulse, Heat Wave, Solarbeam, Air Slash
    Leafeon with chlorophyl- Helping hand, dig,leag blade and synthesis
    Alakazam- Dazzling Gleam, Energy ball, shadow ball and psychic
    Salamance- Dragon Claw,Zen Headbutt, Crunch and Brick Break

    Here what it happens, which seriously pissed me off like mad !!!
    I sent out Charizard Y and Leafeon out for battle vs Latias and Tornadus
    I used Helping hand to boost Charizard Y's Dragon pulse to hope to OHKO Latias, but it missed (unfortunately)
    Tornadus' Hurricane wiped my Leafeon away
    Alakazam switch in and used Dazzling Gleam but missed on latias again
    eventually it died and Salamance is sent out too and dragon claw missed on Latias
    What I felt stupid was that despite the accuracy of 70 by Hurricane, it hit all of the time whereas the attacks that I used to attempt to OHKO latias all missed 3 times despite 100 accuracy.Thanks to that I lost badly
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    The haxxing in that house is vicious. It's incredibly frustrating.

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    I was able to get to the 45th trainer, but again the AI kept getting those crit-hit...
    M-Venusaur was able to take a Latios-LusterPurge+Calm Mind crit hit...
    If it wasnt that demm

    My team now was
    Barbaracle, M-Venusaur and Gliscor

    Focus Blast was able to hit my Barbaracle, but lives with focus sash. I beat that regice with brickbreak
    Now againt raikou my Razor Shell miss(why he doesnt have Waterfall gosh,) and he's beated by this raikou.
    I sent my Gliscor,activate poisonheal, boost with sword dance, but the raikou got the berry that reduce the Groung type move and do
    Shadow Ball, get a crit-hit and drop my Sp.D
    He then swith to latios, i recover some hp behind protect. Do Ice fang...it miss. I do another ice fang but he only lost like 45% hpNow he do that Calm Mind+dragon pulse and beat my gliscor.

    Gosh ive made a mock battle againt his team: Regice, Raikou, Latios and swept his team... Seriously the hax is ridiculus...anyway gonna try again.
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    Super Singles Team Update:

    Cloyster @ Focus Sash
    Ability: Skill Link
    Adamant Nature (+Atk,-SpA)
    252 Attack / 252 Speed / 4 HP
    Shell Smash
    Icicle Spear
    Rock Blast
    Waterfall

    Venusaur @ Venusaurite
    Ability: Overgrow -> Thick Fat
    Bold (+Def, -Atk)
    252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpA
    Leech Seed
    Giga Drain
    Toxic
    Protect

    and my final member is, to complete a FWG core and my gimmicky team of using only Pokémon from Gen I...

    Flareon @ Life Orb
    Ability: Flash Fire
    Careful (+SpD, -SpA)
    252 HP / 252 SpD / 4 Atk
    Curse
    Flare Blitz
    Wish
    Protect

    I don't know if this is a good set for Flareon, should I just run Rest + Sleep Talk instead of Wish + Protect to get rid of status conditions? I've always loved using Rest + Sleep Talk, but it can be very unpredictable since you don't know when your Pokémon will wake up or what kind of move it will use for Sleep Talk. I'm also thinking of using a Guts set, but I want more of a bulky Flareon set since Cloyster is already my main sweeper.

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    Lost my streak at #38 in the most frustrating way imaginable >_> 76JW-WWWW-WWW3-9SZB. Needless to say, I'll have to reconsider my Mega-Kang's moveset... For the Battle Maison anyway.
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