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    I really have no idea what to theme my team around, so it's just a mishmash of various things. It's just a normal battling team with a focus on defense, nothing really special. Would love suggestions that'll help make my team more consistent, but please don't suggest Pokébank.

    My team has too much of a focus on physical attacks.

    [TEAM REVISION AS OF 11.12.13]


    Klefki @ Light Clay
    Calm/Bold, Prankster
    EVs: 4HP, 252Def, 252SpDef
    -Light Screen
    -Spikes
    -Reflect
    -Flash Cannon/Dazzling Gleam



    Aggron @ Aggronite
    Adamant/Careful, Rock Head
    EVS: 4HP, 252Attack, 252SpDef
    -Head Smash/Stone Edge/Dragon Tail
    -Heavy Slam
    -Earthquake
    -Toxic/Thunder Wave/Hone Claws



    Hydreigon @ Choice Specs
    Modest, Levitate
    EVs: 4HP, 252SpAtk, 252Speed
    -Flamethrower/Fire Blast
    -Focus Blast
    -Dark Pulse
    -Draco Meteor



    Roserade @ Choice Scarf
    Modest/Timid, Natural Cure/Poison Point
    EVs: 4Def, 252SpAtk, 252Speed
    - Sludge Bomb
    - Dazzling Gleam
    - Energy Ball
    - Shadow Ball


    [legendary - interchangeable with Togekiss]

    Zygarde @ Life Orb/Yache Berry
    Adamant, Aura Break
    EVs: 252HP, 252Attack, 4Speed
    -Stone Edge
    -Coil
    -Earthquake
    -Dragon Dance


    [non-legendary - interchangeable with Zygarde]

    Togekiss @ Life Orb
    Modest, Serene Grace
    EVs: 252HP, 252SpAtk, 4Speed
    -Thunder Wave
    -Dazzling Gleam
    -Air Slash
    -Roost



    Furfrou @ Leftovers
    Impish, Fur Coat
    EVs: 252HP, 4Attack, 252Def
    -Roar
    -Sucker Punch
    -U-Turn
    -Toxic
    Last edited by Gampi; 15th December 2013 at 3:59 PM. Reason: Roserade



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    For Hydreigon
    I would rather use Surf instead of Focus Blast, it covers a bit more type and Surf is realiable. I would rather run Life Orb on Hydreigon since it covers so much type that it needs to switch move.

    For Togekiss
    I would use Aura Sphere instead of Roost, I know it is useful, but Steel could be your problem without it. Also I would recommend King's Rock or Leftover over Life Orb.

    For Hawlucha
    I would use Rock Slide instead of Steel Wing because it covers more type and Sword Dance instead of U-Turn for Attack boost, you can go for Focus Sash instead right now since Flying Gem doesn't exist and it was nerf from increasing 50% of damage to gaining 30% of damage instead.

    For Archeops I wouldn't use Head Smash as it might make it uses its ability Immediately, I would use Stone Edge instead.

    Hope this help

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    Quote Originally Posted by chap196 View Post
    For Hydreigon
    I would rather use Surf instead of Focus Blast, it covers a bit more type and Surf is realiable. I would rather run Life Orb on Hydreigon since it covers so much type that it needs to switch move.

    For Togekiss
    I would use Aura Sphere instead of Roost, I know it is useful, but Steel could be your problem without it. Also I would recommend King's Rock or Leftover over Life Orb.

    For Hawlucha
    I would use Rock Slide instead of Steel Wing because it covers more type and Sword Dance instead of U-Turn for Attack boost, you can go for Focus Sash instead right now since Flying Gem doesn't exist and it was nerf from increasing 50% of damage to gaining 30% of damage instead.

    For Archeops I wouldn't use Head Smash as it might make it uses its ability Immediately, I would use Stone Edge instead.

    Hope this help
    Fighting covers more typing than Water, sure Focus Blast has lower accuracy but it hits more things harder. Several of the types that Fighting is super effective against are also quite common, but two of the three types Water is super effective against aren't covered by Fighting. Hmm...

    Whilst giving Togekiss Aura Sphere would help cover its Steel weakness, it would leave it without any form of recovery. I'm running Life Orb on it so you can understand the problem with having no recovery, and I can't run Leftovers on it since it's the item I want to use for one of the potential Pokémon.

    Hawlucha is a frail Pokémon, so running Swords Dance on it would pretty much be a lost cause. Rock Slide over Steel Wing seems like a sensible choice. The gem's availability is a shaky subject, I chose it simply because it pairs well with Acrobatics and Unburden [even though Hawlucha probably dies in one hit anyway].

    Archeops would probably benefit more from Stone Edge, though then there's the problem with the shaky accuracy. I'm leaning towards using Archeops over Hawlucha as it functions better as a glass cannon.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Shnivy View Post
    Fighting covers more typing than Water, sure Focus Blast has lower accuracy but it hits more things harder. Several of the types that Fighting is super effective against are also quite common, but two of the three types Water is super effective against aren't covered by Fighting. Hmm...

    Whilst giving Togekiss Aura Sphere would help cover its Steel weakness, it would leave it without any form of recovery. I'm running Life Orb on it so you can understand the problem with having no recovery, and I can't run Leftovers on it since it's the item I want to use for one of the potential Pokémon.

    Hawlucha is a frail Pokémon, so running Swords Dance on it would pretty much be a lost cause. Rock Slide over Steel Wing seems like a sensible choice. The gem's availability is a shaky subject, I chose it simply because it pairs well with Acrobatics and Unburden [even though Hawlucha probably dies in one hit anyway].

    Archeops would probably benefit more from Stone Edge, though then there's the problem with the shaky accuracy. I'm leaning towards using Archeops over Hawlucha as it functions better as a glass cannon.
    Togekiss can use Leftover to heal itself and it doesn't necessary need healing. Life Orb should be use by Hydreigon instead. Hawlucha currently has Focus Sash as it is impossible to get Flying Gem, you can also use Baton Pass on Hawlucha instead of Steel Wing to support your team. Archeops really need either Stone Edge or Rock Slide, Head Smash will just kill it right away by activating Defeatist, why would you be worry about Stone Edge while Focus Blast on Hydreigon has even lower accuracy. Togekiss could run King's Rock instead to increase the flinch chances of Air Slash.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chap196 View Post
    Togekiss can use Leftover to heal itself and it doesn't necessary need healing. Life Orb should be use by Hydreigon instead. Hawlucha currently has Focus Sash as it is impossible to get Flying Gem, you can also use Baton Pass on Hawlucha instead of Steel Wing to support your team. Archeops really need either Stone Edge or Rock Slide, Head Smash will just kill it right away by activating Defeatist, why would you be worry about Stone Edge while Focus Blast on Hydreigon has even lower accuracy. Togekiss could run King's Rock instead to increase the flinch chances of Air Slash.
    I prefer running Life Orb, and Roost allows Togekiss to restore health lost from Life Orb recoil. King's Rock doesn't increase the chances of Air Slash flinching, to my knowledge.
    The fanbase is throwing theories left and right about the gems avaliability, perhaps I should just run something like Aegislash instead?
    Choice-locking doesn't really bother me that much, so I'm adamant about changing Hydreigon's held item.
    Hawlucha is meant to be a glass cannon-y thing, so U-turn does a better job than Baton Pass, since it's not really meant to run as a support anyway. Same situation with Archeops, Stone Edge has shaky accuracy, and it wouldn't be a good glass cannon if it missed and Defeatist activates/it dies, now would it? Although to be fair, refusing to run Stone Edge on Archeops is pretty hypocritical of me since I ran the same move on my Archeops in W2 and never had a problem. Meh, might as well run Stone Edge.

    EDIT: Something like this?


    Archeops @ Flying Gem
    Jolly, Defeatist
    EVs: 4HP, 252Attack, 252Speed
    -Acrobatics
    -U-Turn
    -Stone Edge
    -Earthquake

    I'm trying to run Leftovers with one of three potential 6th teammates, which I've narrowed down to either Furfrou, Aromatisse, or Sylveon [unless somebody else has a better idea].
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    So, I've been thinking. For the 3rd teammate, it should either be one of these:

        Spoiler:- The list:


    ... and for the 6th team mate I've decided on Furfrou.


    Furfrou @ Leftovers
    Impish, Fur Coat
    EVs: 252HP, 4Attack, 252Def
    -Roar
    -Sucker Punch
    -U-Turn
    -Toxic



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    Just remember that Flying Gem is not obtainable yet in X/Y.

    Also, IMO, Rock Slide/Stone Edge for Barbaracle's last move.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shine View Post
    Just remember that Flying Gem is not obtainable yet in X/Y.

    Also, IMO, Rock Slide/Stone Edge for Barbaracle's last move.
    Eh? I thought it could be found in Reflection Cave or the fossil one forgot what it's called.

    Didn't realize I'd forgotten to list a Rock move for Barbaracle.



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    ==Aggron==
    Since it seems like it's your mega evolution I wouldn't suggest Head Smash and just used Stone Edge for STAB, although it's somewhat weaker, It can pull off some criticals if lucky. As for Heavy Slam, I would not suggest if you're up against a pretty heavy opponent and if you don't have Heavy Metal. So i'd switch it for Iron Head/Tail.

    ==Zygarde==
    Coil and Dragon Dance do nearly the same thing and there's no point in that. I would suggest a type of STAB move like maybe Dragon Tail, Outrage (Not suggested without Persim berry/Lum berry) or Dragon Pulse even if its not a special attacker. :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shnivy View Post
    Eh? I thought it could be found in Reflection Cave or the fossil one forgot what it's called.
    nope, the only Gem available so far is the Normal Gem, found in Terminus Cave.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PsiPwnage11 View Post
    ==Aggron==
    Since it seems like it's your mega evolution I wouldn't suggest Head Smash and just used Stone Edge for STAB, although it's somewhat weaker, It can pull off some criticals if lucky. As for Heavy Slam, I would not suggest if you're up against a pretty heavy opponent and if you don't have Heavy Metal. So i'd switch it for Iron Head/Tail.

    ==Zygarde==
    Coil and Dragon Dance do nearly the same thing and there's no point in that. I would suggest a type of STAB move like maybe Dragon Tail, Outrage (Not suggested without Persim berry/Lum berry) or Dragon Pulse even if its not a special attacker. :P
    I was having doubts about Head Smash being effective on Mega!Aggron anyway.

    Coil and Dragon Dance on Zygarde is actually an essential part of the strategy I use with it. Essentially it becomes almost unstoppable.

    Quote Originally Posted by Shine View Post
    nope, the only Gem available so far is the Normal Gem, found in Terminus Cave.
    Ah, that explains my confusion.



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    So I've decided to that Roserade should be the fourth teammate, seeing as Archeops isn't that good without Flying Gem and I don't want my team to become too physical-heavy, so Barbaracle is out of the question.


    Roserade @ Choice Scarf
    Modest/Timid, Natural Cure/Poison Point
    EVs: 4Def, 252SpAtk, 252Speed
    - Sludge Bomb
    - Dazzling Gleam
    - Energy Ball
    - Shadow Ball

    Any thoughts, or is Specially Offensive Choice Scarf Roserade a bad thing?



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    I would give it Choice Specs (if you're set on using a Choice item) over Scarf and run a Timid nature. Natural Cure is a better overall ability as Poison Point isn't reliable and Roserade has inferior defense, and using it in conjunction with Rest is pretty fun.

    If you feel up to it switch Life Orb and give Togekiss King's Rock or Leftovers. King's Rock does increase chance of flinch rate and stacks with Serene Grace; it bumps it up to 70% I think.
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