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    Completely missed that Superpower on T-Tar, my bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mudkip25875 View Post
    one on one assumes no switching in. No previous damage means Venusaur obviously had time to Mega Evolve. if the sets posted for Mamo and Venu were actually the standard Venu can win. So it can still count.

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    Except it can't, because it can't come in and mega evolve on the same turn. No prior damage means when it takes the hit it's at full health. When Venusaur comes in, it won't be in Mega forme and will easily be decimated by Icicle Spear.

    Don't pretend like you know the rules to this better than the people who made it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by dewey911p View Post
    Completely missed that Superpower on T-Tar, my bad.

    Nidoking @ Life Orb
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    EVs: 252 S. Atk/ 252 Spd
    Timid
    - Earth Power
    - Ice Beam
    - Sludge Wave
    - Thunderbolt
    Bronzong @ Assault Vest
    Trait: Levitate
    EVs: 252 HP / 252 Att / 4 SpDef
    IVs: 0 Spe
    Brave Nature
    - Gyro Ball
    - Earthquake
    - Zen Headbutt (idk if it gets this)
    - Explosion

    Completely immune to Nido's STABs.

    252 SpA Life Orb Sheer Force Nidoking Thunderbolt vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Assault Vest Bronzong: 55-65 (16.2 - 19.2%) -- possible 6HKO

    252+ Atk Bronzong Earthquake vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Nidoking: 230-272 (75.6 - 89.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

    I think from now on, we're going to need to have people justify how Pokemon B counters Pokemon A like above.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eaglehawk View Post
    Bronzong @ Assault Vest
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    IVs: 0 Spe
    Brave Nature
    - Gyro Ball
    - Earthquake
    - Zen Headbutt (idk if it gets this)
    - Explosion
    Aegislash @ Leftovers
    252 HP/252 Attack/Brave
    0 Speed
    -Swords Dance
    -Shadow Claw
    -Gyro Ball
    -Sacred Sword

    It comes in on EQ which 3HKOs, 'Slash uses SD then OHKOs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Divine Retribution View Post
    Except it can't, because it can't come in and mega evolve on the same turn. No prior damage means when it takes the hit it's at full health. When Venusaur comes in, it won't be in Mega forme and will easily be decimated by Icicle Spear.

    Don't pretend like you know the rules to this better than the people who made it.
    There's no clarification that the pokemon wasn't already out in battle, which didn't matter before but now it does when there's mega evolutions.

    Don't pretend like you can hold a candle to the people's champion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mudkip25875 View Post
    There's no clarification that the pokemon wasn't already out in battle, which didn't matter before but now it does when there's mega evolutions.

    Don't pretend like you can hold a candle to the people's champion.

    There's also no clarification that the Pokemon isn't hacked with 999 stats or something. Sometimes you need to fill in the blanks yourself. It's called common sense.

    Go get some.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Zachmac View Post
    Aegislash @ Leftovers
    252 HP/252 Attack/Brave
    0 Speed
    -Swords Dance
    -Shadow Claw
    -Gyro Ball
    -Sacred Sword

    It comes in on EQ which 3HKOs, 'Slash uses SD then OHKOs.
    Mandibuzz @ Leftovers
    Impish Nature
    Overcoat
    252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpDef
    -Foul Play
    -Roost
    -Toxic
    -Knock Off

    Even with the aforementioned Swords Dance:

    +2 252+ Atk Aegislash-Blade Shadow Claw vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Mandibuzz: 97-114 (22.8 - 26.8%) -- possible 5HKO after Leftovers recovery
    +2 252+ Atk Aegislash-Blade Sacred Sword vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Mandibuzz: 167-197 (39.3 - 46.4%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Leftovers recovery
    +2 252+ Atk Aegislash-Blade Gyro Ball (35 BP) vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Mandibuzz: 97-115 (22.8 - 27.1%) -- possible 5HKO after Leftovers recovery

    +2 0 Atk Mandibuzz Foul Play vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Aegislash-Blade: 1314-1548 (405.5 - 477.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zachmac View Post
    Aegislash @ Leftovers
    252 HP/252 Attack/Brave
    0 Speed
    -Swords Dance
    -Shadow Claw
    -Gyro Ball
    -Sacred Sword

    It comes in on EQ which 3HKOs, 'Slash uses SD then OHKOs.
    Sableye @ Leftovers
    Trait: Prankster
    EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 Att
    Relaxed Nature
    - Will-O-Wisp
    - Recover
    - Foul Play
    - Taunt

    Gyro Ball's power in this situation would be 21.78 (Relaxed Sableye is 122 and Brave Aegislash is 140).

    +2 252+ Atk Aegislash-Blade Shadow Sneak vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Sableye: 138-163 (45.3 - 53.6%) -- 1.2% chance to 2HKO after Leftovers recovery

    +2 252+ Atk Aegislash-Blade Gyro Ball (21 BP) vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Sableye: 73-87 (24 - 28.6%) -- possible 5HKO after Leftovers recovery

    +2 252+ Atk burned Aegislash-Blade Shadow Sneak vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Sableye: 69-81 (22.6 - 26.6%) -- possible 5HKO after Leftovers recovery

    +2 252+ Atk burned Aegislash-Blade Gyro Ball (21 BP) vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Sableye: 36-43 (11.8 - 14.1%) -- possibly the worst move ever

    +2 0 Atk Sableye Foul Play vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Aegislash-Blade: 1314-1548 (405.5 - 477.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO

    0 Atk Sableye Foul Play vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Aegislash-Blade: 660-776 (203.7 - 239.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO

    Regardless whether Aegislash attacks or set ups on the switch in. Sableye can take a hit and responds by manhandling it with Will-O-Wisp and Foul Play.

    Ninja'd.

    Togekiss @ Leftovers
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    EVs: 252 HP / 252 SpAtt / 4 Def
    IVs: 0 Att
    Modest Nature
    - Nasty Plot
    - Heal Bell
    - Dazzling Gleam
    - Substitute

    Togekiss Togekiss doesn't care about being Knocked Off and Foul Play does minimal damage to it. Regardless whether Mandibuzz knocks me or not, it's set-up bait and I can Nasty Plot safely.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Divine Retribution View Post
    There's also no clarification that the Pokemon isn't hacked with 999 stats or something. Sometimes you need to fill in the blanks yourself. It's called common sense.

    Go get some.
    Except mine isn't illegal in battle and can just be the pokemon was already sent out. That's not a case of lack of common sense that's just a possibility. lol sorry i forgot you are the great divine retribution and are at the forefront of the pokemon metagame. I'll go train in the mountains so I can become as big headed at a video game as you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mudkip25875 View Post
    There's no clarification that the pokemon wasn't already out in battle, which didn't matter before but now it does when there's mega evolutions.

    Don't pretend like you can hold a candle to the people's champion.
    6) You must be able to switch in and win 70% of the time or better.. So don't just say "I switch in and use Focus Blast three times in a row".
    7) Assume your opponent can predict perfectly. You will always switch in on the worst move possible.

    cause thats not clear. last warning, anymore arguing about the rules when its clearly stated will end with the "peoples champion" being infracted



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    Gastrodon @ Leftovers
    Trait: Storm Drain
    EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpD
    Calm Nature
    -Scald
    -Ice Beam
    -Earth Power
    -Recover

    Takes anything from our dear champion's Thundurus-T and beats it down with Ice Beam.
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    Abomasnow@abomasnite
    brave
    252 attack/252sp def
    -rock slide
    -seed bomb
    -blizzard
    -focus punch



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    Suicune @ Leftovers
    Trait: Pressure
    EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
    Bold Nature
    -Calm Mind
    -Rest
    -Sleep Talk
    -Surf

    The max Entei can do is 31.4% with Stone Edge.

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    Jellicent (M) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Water Absorb
    EVs: 248 HP / 176 Def / 84 Spd
    Calm Nature
    - Night Shade
    - Taunt
    - Recover
    - Will-O-Wisp

    Shuts down Suicune completely & forces it to retreat.
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    Litleo@stick
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    252 attack/252speed
    -crunch
    -ember
    -growl
    -taunt

    Taunt then crunch, stick for swag points
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    ' - ' ...Well I can honestly say I didn't see that one coming.

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    Protean
    4HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
    -Surf
    -Dark Pulse
    -Ice Beam
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    Rotom Wash@choice specs
    modest
    252hp/252sp attack
    -thunderbolt
    -hp fire
    -hydro pump
    -shadow ball



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    Y'know I've been wondering... do we assume that if the Pokemon-to-counter has a Choice item, it would still be locked into the "obvious" move that it would've used to KO the preceding Pokemon? Regardless...

    Venusaur @ Venusaurite
    Calm Nature
    Chlorophyll -> Thick Fat
    252 HP / 4 SpA / 252 SpDef
    -Giga Drain
    -Sludge Bomb
    -Hidden Power Rock
    -Synthesis

    If it's locked into Thunderbolt it's a no-brainer. If not...

    252+ SpA Choice Specs Rotom-W Hidden Power Fire vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Venusaur: 136-160 (37.3 - 43.9%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
    252+ SpA Choice Specs Rotom-W Hidden Power Fire vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Thick Fat Mega Venusaur: 60-72 (16.4 - 19.7%) -- possible 6HKO

    4 SpA Mega Venusaur Giga Drain vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Rotom-W: 182-216 (59.8 - 71%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
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    yes its to be assumed its locked in the best move at the current situation



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    Quote Originally Posted by mcdanger View Post
    Litleo@stick
    adamant
    252 attack/252speed
    -crunch
    -ember
    -growl
    -taunt

    Taunt then crunch, stick for swag points

    That's a nice troll Pokemon you got there. Reported for breaking rules, GL ON BAN NOOB.

    Just kidding, @ Venusaur

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    Quote Originally Posted by Divine Retribution View Post
    That's a nice troll Pokemon you got there. Reported for breaking rules, GL ON BAN NOOB.

    Just kidding, @ Venusaur

    Heatran @ Choice Specs
    Modest - Flash Fire
    252 Sp. Atk, 252 HP, 4 Sp. Def
    -Fire Blast
    -Earth Power
    -Hidden Power (Ice)
    -Flash Cannon
    Munchlax @ Eviolite
    Trait: Thick Fat
    EVs: 252 HP / 232 Att / 24 SpDef
    Careful
    - Earthquake
    - Return
    - Fire Punch
    - Self-Destruct

    252+ SpA Choice Specs Flash Fire Heatran Fire Blast vs. 252 HP / 24+ SpD Eviolite Thick Fat Munchlax: 151-178 (31.8 - 37.5%) -- 90% chance to 3HKO

    252+ SpA Choice Specs Heatran Earth Power vs. 252 HP / 24+ SpD Eviolite Munchlax: 110-130 (23.2 - 27.4%) -- 67.7% chance to 4HKO

    252+ SpA Choice Specs Heatran Flash Cannon vs. 252 HP / 24+ SpD Eviolite Munchlax: 145-172 (30.5 - 36.2%) -- 55.7% chance to 3HKO

    232 Atk Munchlax Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Heatran: 308-364 (79.7 - 94.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

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    Conkeldurr @ Toxic Orb
    Adamant Nature
    Guts
    252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 SpDef
    -Drain Punch
    -Mach Punch
    -Ice Punch
    -Knock Off

    232 Atk Munchlax Return vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Conkeldurr: 129-153 (31.1 - 36.9%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after toxic damage
    232 Atk Munchlax Self-Destruct vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Conkeldurr: 252-297 (60.8 - 71.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after toxic damage (if only such a thing was possible)

    252+ Atk Guts Conkeldurr Drain Punch vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Eviolite Munchlax: 576-680 (121.5 - 143.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO
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    Alakazam @ Focus Sash
    Magic Guard & Timid
    252 Special Attack / 252 Speed
    - Psychic
    - Shadow Ball
    - Dazzling Gleam
    - Energy Ball

    252 SpA Alakazam Psychic vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Conkeldurr: 428-506 (103.3 - 122.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO


    Assuming Alakazam is sent in to revenge kill, he'll win... but otherwise
    252+ Atk Conkeldurr Knock Off vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Alakazam: 308-364 (122.2 - 144.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO
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    5) Focus Sash is banned to prevent a game of "I switch in something faster and KO you"

    still on conk



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