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    Looks like what ever system malamar was building seemed to worked atleast, I think that it that malamar could be working for team flare since after the place blew up its escaped and how it was only meantion we and so on. Also glad that they used meowth scratch as a means to stop him and ash being mind controlled and another good one for clemonts inventions. What was also weird was how only madam x mind controlled didnt seem to talk like a robot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eievui-Nymphia View Post
    With "our world", I see it could be referring to Malamar and we ones it hypnotized. This is what it meant.

    Right now I consioder this episode:
    -A filler episode.
    -A semi-filler because Character Development for Team Rocket
    How the hell is this a filler when Malamar will obviously return later? It doesn't have to related to Team Flare to not be filler. This is a set up for future events.
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    dk;asg;ds;gwHK;DSGHseghe

    Creepily comedic, in a cynically Lovecraftian way...wait, a Pokémon acting truly evil w/o a Trainer...RETCON to Ekans's speech in Island of the Giant Pokémon much?!

    Also, what were the hypnotized ones building?

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    Does being hypnotized count as being brainwashed? If so, eugh. It's what Episode N was mostly about.

    Well, finally. An EVIL Pokemon unless the "we" meant that it's got a trainer or someone else making it act that way.

    ...BTW, that Pangoro at the end grabbing the children? It's huge!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gamzee Makara View Post

    Creepily comedic, in a cynically Lovecraftian way...wait, a Pokémon acting truly evil w/o a Trainer...RETCON to Ekans's speech in Island of the Giant Pokémon much?!
    Someone didn't watch the Litwick episode.
    That's not the first time the anime featured genuine evil Pokémon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magma Bomb View Post
    Someone didn't watch the Litwick episode.
    That's not the first time the anime featured genuine evil Pokémon.
    Those three were more pranksters than evil to me.

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    Well, Malamar is definitely coming back in the future.

    This episode truly reminded me of Hunter J's debut episode except this time the villain was a Pokemon. Even the way the episode ended with everyone commenting on Malamar as it escaped and its mysterious plan just screamed 'This ain't the last you've seen of Malamar'. Also, Malamar's words implied it working with others, and it said that AFTER it lost control over everyone, so it was not referring to Ash and co. but someone else.

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    I'm glad I lowered my expectations for this episode. It wasn't the episode I thought it was going to be. This episode was just okay. Nothing really special about it. It's amazing all this Pikachu focus lately. The last episode had a Pikachu subplot, and now this one. How about we focus on a Kalos Pokemon like Froakie? or Bunnelby? This is the Gen 6/XY series isn't it? Whatever. I could have lived without the Pikachu parts. Malamar was a cool evil Pokemon. It wasn't ground breaking but it got the job done for the episode's antagonist. I was very surprised at how much I liked Meowth in this episode. Meowth was the highlight of the episode for me. I'm not joking.

    The stuff that I did enjoy were Clemont's Pikachu bot. That was funny. Clemont, once again you prove to be my new favorite male sidekick...no, favorite male main character of the series. Bonnie sadly didn't get any show stealing moments, but to my surprise Serena did. They were very small moments but moments that I'm going to remember. The key to avoiding Malamar's brainwashing thing is apparently being scratched in the face or pain in general. Serena will have none of that. She knows her face is a money maker. She'd rather lose her free will. And when she did get zombied did she try to body slam Ash, or maybe she just wanted a hug. I personally think she wanted the hat. It's what she was aiming for.

    The stuff I didn't enjoy. I'm nit-picking but I really did not need another brainwashed Pikachu attacking Ash. I know the two have a strong bond. Why not have Froakie in this situation. At least Froakie is new to Ash and the audience in general. You also zombied all of Ash's friends and they didn't do jack. Well minus Serena trying to eat Ash's hat with that failed hug. What was the point of even doing that? Just so Ash vs Pikachu can be one on one? Also Madame X felt very forgettable. Malamar was great, but I feel you could have taken Madame X out of this episode and this episode would have flown just the same. These are just my nagging nit-picks. Don't take them too seriously.

    Overall this episode had potential to be really great, but it just settles on being a average episode. The ending with Inkay was funny. TR will never evolve that thing and I can't say I blame them. And of course I got to see Pangoro protecting Serena. Make it happen writers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mew2 View Post
    Perhaps they're concerned about the potential for their new Malamar to hynotize them. After all, as it appears right now, this Malamar appears to be evil of its own volition. What would happen if their own Inkay evolved into Malamar and turned on them?
    More like TR is weak and unfit to use its powers.

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    Even when mind controlled clemont saves the day

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    I agree with Plat fan.. I can't believe this episode had the gall to rip off Team Plasma's Pokemon Power Plot, the climax of the subway arc, AND the Team Plasma climax, all at once!

    I liked the ending, as well as Clemont's invention restoring Malamar's hold on the other Pokemon that are not Pikachu.

    Oh, and I think Meowth should have just went up and scratched Serena so she could maybe be more useful.
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    This is just a theory, and I know that there were no actual ties to Team Flare here, but since Team Flares studied stones like mega stones, fossils, and the Gesonege tombstones in the games, maybe Malamar was at the observatory to analyze any of the stones or rocks there. After all, the big rock that brainwashed Clemont and Bonnie hid behind kind of looked like a glowing meteorite
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    I really loved how the Pika robot came in to save the day. I LOL'd when it rammed right into Malamar. I am very interested to see who the "we" are. I feel like this Malamar and whatever plot it will entail won't return until Ash battles the 2nd gym leader. Speaking of that, I am assuming the 2nd gym battle will take place in late April or May?

    Anyway, I thought it was funny when Serena refused to be scratched. I want someone to have a pokemon that has that ability in which it cannot fall asleep, that or whatever ability Ash's Heracross has.

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    Also lolling at people getting so mad at another Pikachu/Ash scene despite the fact that barely took up 10% of the episode.

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    The people complaining are not mad, they're disappointed. They thought this series was better than this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Platinum fan. View Post
    I'm glad I lowered my expectations for this episode. It wasn't the episode I thought it was going to be. This episode was just okay. Nothing really special about it. It's amazing all this Pikachu focus lately. The last episode had a Pikachu subplot, and now this one. How about we focus on a Kalos Pokemon like Froakie? or Bunnelby? This is the Gen 6/XY series isn't it? Whatever.
    These episodes aren't even focused on Pikachu, he just happens to have a role in them. He's the main character along with Ash, it is to be expected. We've gotten ACTUAL focus episodes for Froakie, Chespin and Dedenne(kinda) over the past few weeks and Serena/Fennekin should get something after next weeks ep.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Benny+Lilia+Ash View Post
    The people complaining are not mad, they're disappointed. They thought this series was better than this.
    It's better than BW, so far, at least.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dephender View Post
    No, it was using Madame X to help it construct a system it didn't explain the actual purpose for.

    It's not alone, it was talking about "we", "us" and "our" after Madame X had been unmasked. There are others involved here.

    The episode was primarily just setup intended to get us speculating. There were several mentions of a larger plan, but they were very broad, so we have no real hints towards what it will involve.
    This is clearly not a filler then.

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    Well, apparently there was no hint of Team Flare in this episode, I have no doubt Malamar will at least be recurring.

    What is that "master plan" all about tho?? Is Malamar trying to conquer the world by its own? I don't think so.

    Hahaha the funny moment was TR scared of poor Inkay at the end! XD

    Overall it was a great episode, one of my favorite so far in XY, 9.5/10.
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    Absolutely loved the episode, definitely one of the best in XY so far. So it seems like there are signs of Malamar returning in a much deeper plot, which in all honesty is 80% likely to be related to Team Flare which i'm perfectly fine with, the foreshadowing of future events is great.

    Pros:

    -Music was brilliant all the way throughout
    -Loved the intensity of it all, particularly as Ash and Meowth were alone being attacked by everyone
    -Malamar was a very threatening villain, something we don't get enough of
    -Ash and Meowth teaming up
    -Meowth was very clever in this episode and used his attacks quite a bit too
    -Ash being attacked by Pikachu scene, he'll do anything to save his friend
    -Plot was well written for a Pokemon episode
    -The semi-grim ending as Malamar escaped was nice to see, normally it's all super happy with no care in the world
    -The ending relating Inkay to Malamar and scaring team rocket

    Cons:

    -Ash and Pikachu scene was similar to the Pikachu mind control episode in BW, regardless this scene in XY was far more intense making it better imo.

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    9/10.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RickHoenn View Post
    It's better than BW, so far, at least.
    1- How exactly?
    2- Is that really a good standard for the ones who didn't like BW?

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    Enjoyed the episode and most things about, hands down one of the best of XY thus far. Very fast-paced stuff and it wasted no time moving along things, I feel this could have benefited from being a two-parter. We could have gotten extra things like more focus on Malamar, more Ash/Meowth tag teaming, actually seeing the XY Quartet put up a fight before being taken control of. Wouldn't it have been great for Malamar to slowly encounter each member and them trying to fight back only for their Fennekin, Chespin and Dedenne to be taken control of in their efforts to take down it down?

    The music in this episode was great, so grave and intense in most scenes. Really brings out a lot in a lot of scenes for me, like the PokeDex for example. Bonnie was great as usual, love that girl. I like how she had so many fun facial expressions and how she seemed to be pretty suspicious of Meowth. You would think a little kid would be naive but she proved otherwise. I couldn't help but giggle that Serena would rather lose her freewill than have that pretty moneymaker scratched up.

    Team Rocket were good in this episode, Meowth's concern was nice enough and he wasn't annoying. Jessie/James weren't annoying or unnecessary thankfully. I got to see Inkay which was nice, I've been missing it for a while. Meowth wasn't Episode N competent but the use of Fury Swipes to save his and Ash's skin several times throughout the episode was a large step up from the usual and he showed some great personality here and interactions. I also like how he did the translation job with such intensity and how the Rockets actually took stuff seriously. They didn't do anything ridiculous like try to capture Malamar and Pikachu at the land second. I actually thought it was really amusing how they all were scared that Inkay could become one of those malicious mean things. I don't want Inkay to evolve either way because I really like it a lot the way it is and I feel if it became a Rocket Pokemon it would cheapen the value of the species. I did mind it amusing that of the mind-controlled temporarily evil Pokemon at the end there was a Beedrill among them, Kalos loves its Beedrill doesn't it?

    Downsides for me? More Pikachu mind control, I've seen it a million times already. I know Ash/Pikachu have a strong bond. Why not Froakie or Fletchling and Pikachu has gotten a bit of focus already recently. But the scenes were nice, seeing Ash get through to Pikachu like that and the music, voice acting and constantly getting battered held my attention well. Definitely hoping Malamar appears again, wasn't too surprised Madame X was just a puppeted Officer Jenny. You could tell by the blue hair strands, but I hope this episode is totally setting the way for Team Flare. Of course I'm entirely okay with Malamar operating on its own, could be interesting to have a PokeVillain who isn't misunderstood or working for a human.

    I still can't believe Meowth was the highlight of this episode for me and the BGM. Pretty good episode.

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    Nah, not better than BW yet. It had pretty amazing Kami Trio episodes. And the scenes when TR knew how to be badass.

    I enjoy the series but it's too early to make conclusions like that.


    Returning to the EP, I personally enjoyed it. Madame X should have been a whole different person and not Officer Jenny though. Even though we knew this since ages, it's still quite disappointing that we can't have anyone like Hunter J again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doryuzu View Post
    Downsides for me? More Pikachu mind control, I've seen it a million times already. I know Ash/Pikachu have a strong bond.
    Well, at least it was Clemont's malfunctioning invention and not the power of Ash's and Pikachu's friendship that freed everyone from Malamar's control.

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    I watched the episode and… I'm speechless, I have no idea why, but I am, that was an amazing episode! I can't even..
    Well, I know what I can say, I felt SO sorry for Ash in the scenes where he kept having one attack after another thrown at him, and I think only one missed.. dam.
    Other than feeling so scared for Ash, it's was an AWESOME episode, whoa..

    Oh Serena trying to grab him while possessed, maybe next time Serena aha!
    I also like Ash and Meowth's teamwork
    And the ending.. and ALL OF IT!
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    The soundtracks in this episode were great and really captured the suspense in the episode.

    Hypnotised Wobbeffet sounds a bit weird. Actually, all the ones who are hypnotised sound weird, exept for Madame X. I wonder why that would be.

    Dispite the fact that hypnotised/possed Pikachu was show for like the third time (I remember the Hoenn Kyogre VS Groundon episode and the BW episode) it was shown in a pretty cool way.

    I hope to see a subbed or dubbed version soon, because I don't understand a lot of Japanese and a lot of things where told.

    Maybe we will see Malamar again. That is the feeling I have.
    Something is stirring. Does this mean I stop lurking and return? Who knows...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pink Harzard View Post
    The soundtracks in this episode were great and really captured the suspense in the episode.

    Hypnotised Wobbeffet sounds a bit weird. Actually, all the ones who are hypnotised sound weird, exept for Madame X. I wonder why that would be.

    Dispite the fact that hypnotised/possed Pikachu was show for like the third time (I remember the Hoenn Kyogre VS Groundon episode and the BW episode) it was shown in a pretty cool way.

    I hope to see a subbed or dubbed version soon, because I don't understand a lot of Japanese and a lot of things where told.

    Maybe we will see Malamar again. That is the feeling I have.
    The only problem with the dubbed version is that all of that great music is going to be replaced with the adequate TPCI BGM that everyone's still trying to get used to

    Same here!!
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