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    Quote Originally Posted by bobjr View Post
    That's what happens already, minus the death penalty because it's a dumb system that doesn't work.

    The last time someone from any of these countries committed a violent crime as a refugee was the 70's.
    The OSU attack back in 2016 was done by a Somali refugee, IIRC. But he was shot and killed by the first responding officer so that's probably a moot point regarding what I was suggesting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ebevan91 View Post
    Solution: Lower the amount allowed to come over here even more than it was before, and if that person commits a violent crime (other than rape or murder), they get sent back to where they came from, and they're not allowed back over here at all. If it's murder or rape they get the death penalty and have to serve in Gitmo while waiting.

    Should please both sides. Harsher punishment if they don't have good intentions but they will be allowed over here as long as the cap hasn't been reached.
    You just advocated cruel and unusual punishment and purposely doing away with the right for due process.

    You cannot impose mandatory death penalties for any crime. The whole idea that Trump would assume he could do that is absurd. and don't give me the "they aren't citizens they don't get the rights citizens have" crap, because it's absurd.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mordent99 View Post
    You just advocated cruel and unusual punishment and purposely doing away with the right for due process.

    You cannot impose mandatory death penalties for any crime. The whole idea that Trump would assume he could do that is absurd. and don't give me the "they aren't citizens they don't get the rights citizens have" crap, because it's absurd.
    Not any crime, only murder or rape. Or after trial just send them to Gitmo/wherever for the rest of their lives. Doesn't really matter as long as they won't be able to do any more harm to civilians.

    Basically what we already do as bobjr said.
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    Trump proposing whole sale elimination of the National Endowment for the Arts and Humanities in his budget.

    Meanwhile the new Health and Human services director has said he wants to get rid of mandatory vaccinations.

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    Trump just humiliated himself AGAIN:

    https://www.aol.com/article/news/201...verb/21898479/

    His "favorite Irish proverb" is not Irish, not a proverb, and was actually written by a Nigeran man named Albashir Adam Alhassan.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bobjr View Post
    Trump proposing whole sale elimination of the National Endowment for the Arts and Humanities in his budget.
    This is actually concerning to video game developers studying the craft.

    My guess is less indie games to go around.


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    The US military just blithely admitted to a unilateral strike on an occupied mosque in Aleppo. 57 civilians dead so far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobjr View Post
    The US military just blithely admitted to a unilateral strike on an occupied mosque in Aleppo. 57 civilians dead so far.
    I would like to reaffirm my formal statement that I never once considered voting for this man, and do not regret my decision in the least.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bobjr View Post
    Meanwhile the new Health and Human services director has said he wants to get rid of mandatory vaccinations.
    Sure. But only if he volunteers to suck down a few vials full of the Ebola virus before entombing himself in a concrete bunker. Then I'll get behind it, if only for a year or two.

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    Also looking up the budget stuff I found out the Military Marching Band gets 4 times the funding the HHS gets.

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    Welcome to Trump's America, folks:

    https://www.aol.com/article/news/201...xico/21902466/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mordent99 View Post
    This is new levels of being sore losers.


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    Now Trump has told another boldfaced lie that he won't take back:

    https://www.aol.com/article/news/201...s-fo/21902568/

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    In lighter news...

    https://www.aol.com/article/news/201...tary/21902315/
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    Trump's approval rating is down the drain at 37 percent.

    http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/20/politi...val/index.html

    Comey confirms that there is no information that Obama wiretapped Trump.

    http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/...russia-n735696

    The FBI ARE investigating Trump-Russia connections.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/20/u...ald-trump.html

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    It should be noted that even with the drop support among republicans has risen to 90% and white men has risen to 60%.

    Spicer also says Trump going on vacation is different from Obama going on vacation because of "how you use the game of golf" to advance US interests
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    Quote Originally Posted by bobjr View Post
    It should be noted that even with the drop support among republicans has risen to 90% and white men has risen to 60%.
    Possibly even worse for Trump, as it also means his core demographic is shrinking; he's losing the few voters he has that are NOT white men, and those who identify as independent.

    Consider it like this. If I had ten chocolate cupcakes, and four of them has a strawberry on top while the others had a cherry, it means 40% have cherries. But, if two of the cupcakes with strawberries are eaten, it means 50% now have cherries.

    Does that mean the ones with cherries are more popular due to this change? No, it means the change is the result of the larger percentage being removed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mordent99 View Post
    Possibly even worse for Trump, as it also means his core demographic is shrinking; he's losing the few voters he has that are NOT white men, and those who identify as independent.

    Consider it like this. If I had ten chocolate cupcakes, and four of them has a strawberry on top while the others had a cherry, it means 40% have cherries. But, if two of the cupcakes with strawberries are eaten, it means 50% now have cherries.

    Does that mean the ones with cherries are more popular due to this change? No, it means the change is the result of the larger percentage being removed.
    It also means he's not going down unless they're 100% sure he's bringing the party with him.

    They had a meeting to try and see if the healthcare bill has the votes, and it looks like it doesn't. The key here is if Ryan wants to push it or not, because if they make a big push and fail it'll hurt them pretty badly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobjr View Post
    It also means he's not going down unless they're 100% sure he's bringing the party with him.

    They had a meeting to try and see if the healthcare bill has the votes, and it looks like it doesn't. The key here is if Ryan wants to push it or not, because if they make a big push and fail it'll hurt them pretty badly.
    Even Ted Cruz has expressed opposition to it. The Republicans are fighting amongst themselves while the Democrats are firmly united.

    If Trump's bill fails, it hurts Trump. And before long, everyone is going to realize that the biggest reason they wanted to repeal Obama's bill is simple: It's Obama's bill.
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    Well you have the Republicans who know passing it will be a disaster for them as they lose support, and you have the far right ones who are mad it doesn't take away enough. Basically one side would have to give in, and either way would likely be bad for them.

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    http://hdr.undp.org/sites/default/fi...ent_report.pdf

    2016 report for Human Development Index.

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    And Trump ain't helping his case:

    https://www.aol.com/article/news/201...seat/21904236/
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    http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news...th-voter-fraud

    More voter fraud. More projection.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobjr View Post
    Five bucks and a pizza says that Trump's first reaction is to scream, "FAKE NEWS!"

    Oh, and you gotta see this:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xecEV4dSAXE
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