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    Lol, Fairy is one of the best types in the game. Like KillerDraco said, Steel and Poison are still not very common offensive types outside of STAB users, which are easy to identify and avoid. You can pair Fairy with literally any other type and you'll probably make it better. In exchange for two uncommon weaknesses, you get a resistance to Fighting (easily one of the best offensive types out there), Dark (which is good because Dark-types got buffed in XY and Knock Off is a big deal), and Bug (not too common, but you shrug off U-turn spam like it's nothing), while also gaining an immunity to Dragon (I don't think I need to explain why this is so good). If it weren't for its new Fairy typing, Granbull would be rotting away in NU wishing that it had Miltank's reliable recovery, natural bulk, and speed as a cleric or Ursaring's power, speed, and access to Swords Dance as a Quick Feet sweeper. As is now, Granbull is a pretty good physical tank in RU and an even better one in NU, and it's all thanks to is new Fairy typing.

    Also, probably the only reason Granbull is a Fairy is because its species was named "the Fairy Pokemon." Game Freak walked right into that one.
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  2. #27
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    For counters/checks, I'm pretty sure Klinklang deserves special mention as it is immune to intimidate (thanks to its h/a), outspeeds even scarfed versions, and can deal massive damage to it even behind a sub thanks to gear grind. In addition, granbull cannot directly OHKO it unless it has a band/maximum attack investment (which is usually a bad idea, being locked into cc/earthquake).

    252+ Atk Life Orb Klinklang Gear Grind (2 hits) vs. 252 HP / 252 Def Granbull: 374-442 (97.3 - 115.1%) -- approx. 93.8% chance to OHKO
    252+ Atk Expert Belt Klinklang Gear Grind (2 hits) vs. 252 HP / 252 Def Granbull: 346-408 (90.1 - 106.2%) -- approx. 31.3% chance to OHKO
    252+ Atk Granbull Close Combat vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Klinklang: 240-284 (74 - 87.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
    252+ Atk Granbull Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Klinklang: 202-238 (62.3 - 73.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
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  3. #28
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    Physically defensive Weezing w/Wilo-Wisp + Sludge Bomb/Venoshock(for Quick Feet when Granbulls holding Toxic Orb) is a great counter. Outspeeds the non Quick Feet sets, resists Play Rough and immune to EQ. Heck, even an banded Facade in a Adament nature doesn't reach a 2HKO. Granbull will sure miss having STAB on that move last gen to handle Weezing.

    252+ Atk Choice Band Granbull Facade (140 BP) vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Weezing: 151-178 (45.2 - 53.2%) -- 34% chance to 2HKO

    For non-Quick Feet:
    4 SpA Weezing Sludge Bomb vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Granbull: 254-302 (66.1 - 78.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

    For Quick Feet:
    4 SpA Weezing Sludge Bomb vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Granbull: 254-302 (66.1 - 78.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after burn/poison damage

    4 SpA Weezing Venoshock vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Granbull when poisoned: 368-434 (95.8 - 113%) -- 75% chance to OHKO

    You can get Venoshock's damage in the calc by changing the BP of a special Poison move by 130.

  4. #29
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    Sep 2010


    I, personally, have used Steel-Type and Poison-Type Moves as options for certain reasons in the past (Steel for an alternate to Fighting so I can nail Ghost Types on a Switch, Poison for the added effect). Fairy just seems like it opened a floodgate for Poison and Steel to rush into usefulness for others. Flash Cannon, Iron Head, Sludge Bomb, and Poison Jab are rather nasty in the right circumstances, plus Steel Types and Poison Types aren't purely offensive Pokémon. Many have other ways of inflicting pain like Status Effects and Debuffs. Intimidate and Will-o-Wisp are a major hassle for Granbull to get hit by. Without its Attack, Granbull has middling non-HP Stats at best (basically, Clefable, Azumarill, Klefki, or Whimsicott minus the awesomeness of their Abilities and Movepools) and has to rely on what little Support Moves it can muster.
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