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    Quote Originally Posted by Shooti View Post
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    Even "mature" relationships need to have light-hearted banter. It shouldn't always be serious or polite. I felt they pushed one side well, but completely forgot about the other side.

    But, I don't see Unova/Kanto Ash working with Serena, I doubt Serena would even have crush on Ash from those regions to begin with. I mean it could work, Serena would have to adjust her personality traits accordingly, but then again Amour would lose it's charm to me.
    That's why I'd have preferred Serena using the camp flashback to meet Ash, but not necessarily already be head over heels for him by episode 7. Maybe devote like the first year for her to accept his strengths and flaws. It would have been better than status quo from the beginning, and not much afterwards.

    Quote Originally Posted by Daniel31 View Post
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    Not saying it was unjustified, but the point was people criticize Misty/Iris for calling out Ash when he was mopey/immature (in series where he behaved more like that), and when it happened in XY, Serena acted similarly. Which begs the question how the ship would have worked in any other series.

    Quote Originally Posted by Pokegirl Fan~ View Post
    I guess if Serena does return we may get more moments but I'm hoping that they're more comedic or maybe one of Ash's classmates can play off of Amourshipping well with teasing or whatever.
    If the whole point was for Serena to gain XP about the world, they might as well have had her go with Ash. But I guess that would have taken focus from Lillie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maldread View Post
    Not saying it was unjustified, but the point was people criticize Misty/Iris for calling out Ash when he was mopey/immature (in series where he behaved more like that), and when it happened in XY, Serena acted similarly. Which begs the question how the ship would have worked in any other series.
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    DP? Pretty much replace Ash vs Wulfric with Ash vs Paul (lake) and done though the former was more about Ash not being himself while the latter was about Paul just being that good so maybe the 2 aren't quite parallel but still DP Ash seems fine as far as Serena compatibility goes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by z0mbiesrock View Post
    I found a suspicious image. It's a fake, isn't it? There's no way Serena would suddenly appear in a "leak" for the Sun/Moon anime.

    It's also not o the Serebii news page, meaning it's most likely fake.
    I had seen this image going on instagram a few days ago (well actually a few days before the New Year). I can also tell that it was fake although it's hard to prove to tell (which I think that whoever created this leaked image deserves a full credit for a good creativity). Anyways despite knowing that this is indeed fake, I'm still curious about the meaning of those texts written all over. It will be great if someone can translate those.
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    Serena meets Satoshi in Alola Region, travel together with new dreams and develop her love relationship. They are protagonists and heroes saves the world.
    On the way Shigeru and Lillie travel with them. We all have faith that these moments happen.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45b4Cfbz9Ck

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    Quote Originally Posted by SatoSere View Post
    Serena meets Satoshi in Alola Region, travel together with new dreams and develop her love relationship. They are protagonists and heroes saves the world.
    On the way Shigeru and Lillie travel with them. We all have faith that these moments happen.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45b4Cfbz9Ck

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    ... Can you please give your source? Or the video's source? This rumor has been circulating since the details of the Sun and Moon series were known, and no one ever sourced it.
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    I don't care what actually happens. I will forever imagine that she kissed Ash by surprise then rode down the escalator like a boss.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shooti View Post
    For me, Amour was handled better than it's predecessors and the lack of bantering feels a fresh change, makes the relationship look more mature. It shows the level of mutual understanding they have where they'd keep aside their differences and are willing to settle for something that the other one prefers without any conflict, like the moment where Ash postpones his gym battle with Wulfric, is patient with Serena and seems to be enjoying shopping which is definitely not which interests him (XYZ-45).

    By standard definition Serena did flip out seeing Satoshi in a depressed state and when he refused to take her consultancy. But, I think she took quite a while before losing her control. Do you think any of the past main girls would have waited this long before flipping out ? Note that, Serena did leave him for around 6-10 hours alone (the whole night) to let him figure out himself how to get out of this predicament. But seeing the weather getting worse the next morning, she took the pain of finding Ash on herself without telling anybody else. Following scene shows her running out of breath searching frantically for Ash. When she finally ends up finding him and gently offers to help him, he refused and moreover snapped out at her angrily. Serena is not a saint, she got a personality and IMO had every reason in the world to get angry at him. Who knows how longer had it taken for Ash to snap out of it by himself without Serena's help ? Because to me, it seemed he was just sitting on the log doing nothing for hours.

    As for how Ash from a past region would have worked with Serena, I think DP Ash would work, AG and Alola ones would probably work too. But, I don't see Unova/Kanto Ash working with Serena, I doubt Serena would even have crush on Ash from those regions to begin with. I mean it could work, Serena would have to adjust her personality traits accordingly, but then again Amour would lose it's charm to me.
    How is having banter immature lol

    Quote Originally Posted by Daniel31 View Post
    First off, just want to say that everyone has their own opinion on what "flipping out" actually is to them.

    To me it was standard situation with genuine reactions because it was the first time they really reacted harshly to one another. This is what happens when you care a lot for someone, Serena was just trying to do whatever she could to get him out of his mood. It looked more like that Plan A failed, so she quickly went with plan B. I was actually glad to see that Serena stood up to him as she had every right to do so and I expect nothing less from her because of the person she is.

    Also, it's not like she ran up to him to slapped him or pushed him down, it was snowballs. Nearly bursting into tears was normal too, because again...she cares a lot for him and felt hurt at the time because of what just occurred. It's called realism.
    Flipping out just means getting mad, and yes it is part of reality.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maldread View Post
    Not saying it was unjustified, but the point was people criticize Misty/Iris for calling out Ash when he was mopey/immature (in series where he behaved more like that), and when it happened in XY, Serena acted similarly. Which begs the question how the ship would have worked in any other series.
    Yes, but it's different when a "friend" criticizes you as opposed to someone who's feelings run deeper. It's an important variable that should be treated differently.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daniel31 View Post
    Yes, but it's different when a "friend" criticizes you as opposed to someone who's feelings run deeper. It's an important variable that should be treated differently.
    Well one of those two had feelings who ran deeper. But I don't see why that matters. All of them cared for Ash and had similar reactions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zeldafan128 View Post
    ... Can you please give your source? Or the video's source? This rumor has been circulating since the details of the Sun and Moon series were known, and no one ever sourced it.
    It's an ancient troll report from some Spanish blog site back before we knew anything about the SM anime cast.

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    There is a lot of information filtered through the internet, in fact it is information in English.
    Everyone know and are aware that these are likely facts that can become reality with respect to these characters (Satoshi, Serena, Gary and Lillie).

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    Quote Originally Posted by SatoSere View Post
    There is a lot of information filtered through the internet, in fact it is information in English.
    Everyone know and are aware that these are likely facts that can become reality with respect to these characters (Satoshi, Serena, Gary and Lillie).
    "Likely facts" is nothing short of a lie. Maybe it'll be true, but it likely won't. There certainly is a large amount of information circulated in the Latin American community. Anyone can write anything and say it's a leak.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zeldafan128 View Post
    I don't care what actually happens. I will forever imagine that she kissed Ash by surprise then rode down the escalator like a boss.

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    Information from all sides filtered and to be confirmed: Japan, French, Korean, Germany, European Spanish/Latin America but is mainly from English Communities as 4chan, youtube, blogspot between others also possible future events close to reality based on real evidence.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SatoSere View Post
    Information from all sides filtered and to be confirmed: Japan, French, Korean, Germany, European Spanish/Latin America but is mainly from English Communities as 4chan, youtube, blogspot between others also possible future events close to reality based on real evidence.
    "4chan" and "real evidence" should not be in the same sentence.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zeldafan128 View Post
    I don't care what actually happens. I will forever imagine that she kissed Ash by surprise then rode down the escalator like a boss.

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    Does someone know if this is true: https://t.co/OZIiURgMFY
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    Quote Originally Posted by KungFuMaster View Post
    Does someone know if this is true: https://t.co/OZIiURgMFY
    Well in one part it is true about the kiss but as far as her return it is still yet to be determined. Honestly there are lots of rumors going on in the internet about Serena's expected return but most of them were just fan made maybe because they want to keep the hype alive within the Amourshipping community. But as of now there are no actual confirmations about Serena's return. Although the petition about bringing Serena to Alola still continues to spread. I wonder if that could help in anyway?
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    Quote Originally Posted by KungFuMaster View Post
    Does someone know if this is true: https://t.co/OZIiURgMFY
    I don't know how you could take this seriously to begin with when the director of the XY anime is Tetsuo Yajima...not Junichi Masuda. He has NOTHING to do with the anime (at least, in that sense).
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    Quote Originally Posted by KungFuMaster View Post
    Does someone know if this is true: https://t.co/OZIiURgMFY
    As a general rule: If someone authoritative on the anime (whether Dephender or otherwise) hasn't confirmed something that appears and spreads on social media like that, you shouldn't trust it. This one's no exception.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KungFuMaster View Post
    Does someone know if this is true: https://t.co/OZIiURgMFY
    Obviously fake lol.

    I feel like that same person keeps spreading misinformation and getting your hopes up for nothing.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Citronic Gear On View Post
    As a general rule: If someone authoritative on the anime (whether Dephender or otherwise) hasn't confirmed something that appears and spreads on social media like that, you shouldn't trust it. This one's no exception.
    I agree with this the best thing to do is ask Dephender or any mod here to make sure, plus Junichi Masuda is not the anime director of XY/XYZ but it is Tetsuo Yajima
    anyway i dont think we will getting any news info regarding amourshipping for a while which is sad, its being a long time since i get hyped like this , i miss this kind of feeling xD

    and i see some people talking about there will be another interview on march? never heard about it so im not sure
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    I'm only hearing about the interview now, and from what I gathered I'm later than some to the party. Seems that they disambiguated a lot, which is appreciated for those last few pockets of arguments I've seen people have against the scene.

    Interesting that they effectively stretched this show's censorship to its limit. Gives me the feeling that we won't be seeing a comparable stunt any time soon. Even married couples in this series only kiss each other on the cheek!

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    Quote Originally Posted by z0mbiesrock View Post
    I found a suspicious image. It's a fake, isn't it? There's no way Serena would suddenly appear in a "leak" for the Sun/Moon anime.

    It's also not o the Serebii news page, meaning it's most likely fake.
    When Ash see Serena in her new Outfit he have a hard time keeping his Eyeballs in his Head & stop Drooling too.

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    Man I haven't been on Serebii for a long time, I haven't even been watching Pokemon...

    Anyway, based on what I learned in the interview, the guy basically said that Serena would be Ash's endgame. Amour is in a pretty good position and its position would most likely strengthen if Serena comes back.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Power Up View Post
    Man I haven't been on Serebii for a long time, I haven't even been watching Pokemon...

    Anyway, based on what I learned in the interview, the guy basically said that Serena would be Ash's endgame. Amour is in a pretty good position and its position would most likely strengthen if Serena comes back.
    For now, I say the ship is in an immune status so any threats from other ships is pretty much no effect as they have made Serena to be Ash's endgame as you mentioned. Unless they decide to do the same for future female characters and completely dump Serena and the importance of that kiss scene.

    While the chances of her return have increased a bit, it's very likely that she'll return at the the very end of Ash's journey (if it does end)

    It is quite fascinating on how the idea of Serena's anime character came from someone that has been working in the anime since the start (don't know if I'm correct here, but that's what I've read).

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    I am pretty positive Serena won't be MC in SM because:1. We already have too many 'MCs'.
    2. She just decided to go after ribbons, so it doesn't make sense that she will go to Alola in like episode 15-18 after 'school arc' with Gary so they can travel( this is me calling out those fake theories). That means she would leave her dream and travel with Ash as being 'fanservice'.

    Anyway, What I believe is that she will have special + she will come to Alola for 8-9 episodes in 2018 like between her 4th and 5th ribbon or something, like Dawn and May returned in DP/BW respectively.

    Also, what I believe that Serena will travel with Ash in Gen 8, if Gen 8 is normal gen with contests, which I believe it would be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CMButch View Post
    I am pretty positive Serena won't be MC in SM because:1. We already have too many 'MCs'.
    2. She just decided to go after ribbons, so it doesn't make sense that she will go to Alola in like episode 15-18 after 'school arc' with Gary so they can travel( this is me calling out those fake theories). That means she would leave her dream and travel with Ash as being 'fanservice'.

    Anyway, What I believe is that she will have special + she will come to Alola for 8-9 episodes in 2018 like between her 4th and 5th ribbon or something, like Dawn and May returned in DP/BW respectively.

    Also, what I believe that Serena will travel with Ash in Gen 8, if Gen 8 is normal gen with contests, which I believe it would be.
    While I don't disagree with most of your post, there are way too many people who misunderstand what Serena is trying to do. She is not trying to earn ribbons and go to the Grand Festival. She is heading to Hoenn to enrich herself, study Contests by taking part in them and thus coming back as a more confident and better candidate for Kalos Queen. Therefore, she could show up in Alola if she felt it would further that goal. Think of it like a class: what Serena is doing is not necessarily enrolling in the class, but auditing it.
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