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    Yeah I can definitely feel which character is important to the main character based on how the character reacts and if they have a main screen focus. This episode was being a bit obvious as we see Lillie and Mallow having a close up to their reactions (with Mallow chan worrying over Ash like she did in the 2nd episode after he beat Team Skull), Kiawe too with a firm observant reaction to his battle, and he and Prof Kukui were the first to run after Ash, Mallow shown a few feet away from them.

    Even though Lana didn't have much to say and Sophocles did get some attention even though he wasn't exactly that helpful, they still had a role to play. Togedemaru is pretty close to Pikachu.
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    We've nearly reached the twenty episode mark now (we're hopefully ending it with a strong solo outing for Ash and Pikachu). While the ten episode mark set up basic personality elements for the main cast, now we've seen more of their roles and chemistry with Ash.

    Only Lana doesn't really feel like she's expanded much from her limelight episode which was ironically the very first one.

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    tbh the latest episode actually made me like sophocles a bit more. i hope we get to see more of his little quirks later down the road that distinguish him from clemont.

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    Why must I always take an interest in the side characters nobody likes instead of the more important characters?

    I agree with TheWanderingMist's post, but I'll be happy if everybody's developmwnt is sufficient.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mystic9899 View Post
    tbh the latest episode actually made me like sophocles a bit more. i hope we get to see more of his little quirks later down the road that distinguish him from clemont.
    I like him too. I think what makes me like him more is the potential of him continuing to exploit the bond between Ash and Pikachu, and using various inventions and gadgets to bring about their strengths. Knowing that they'll continually be tested by Tapu Koko makes me think that SM019 introduced Sophocles' involvement as a new recurring element. I'd like to see this, even if a few of them fail, because the stuff at Sophocles' house was a lot of fun. It'd give his character more substance, too. I appreciated seeing Togedemaru act as his little "lab assistant". So cute!

    I'm curious how Lana fits into all of this as well, but I really like her so I'd like to see her fleshed out just a bit more!! I hope this series utilizes tournaments like BW did; that was one of that series' strengths.
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    Quote Originally Posted by johno1995 View Post
    I like him too. I think what makes me like him more is the potential of him continuing to exploit the bond between Ash and Pikachu, and using various inventions and gadgets to bring about their strengths. Knowing that they'll continually be tested by Tapu Koko makes me think that SM019 introduced Sophocles' involvement as a new recurring element. I'd like to see this, even if a few of them fail, because the stuff at Sophocles' house was a lot of fun. It'd give his character more substance, too. I appreciated seeing Togedemaru act as his little "lab assistant". So cute!

    I'm curious how Lana fits into all of this as well, but I really like her so I'd like to see her fleshed out just a bit more!! I hope this series utilizes tournaments like BW did; that was one of that series' strengths.
    omg another person who actually likes sophocles? there IS still faith in humanity!

    yeah, i would love to see togedemaru be his cute little assistant in his experiments to help ash and pikachu.

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    I agree I hope they keep the premise of Sophociles training Ash and Pikachu and utilising them as a guinea pig of sorts. So much potential both in dynamic story and humour value. He's our second Electric specialist/scientist combo. At least use this one fully, especially with this Electric rivalry where he's come in handy.

    Concerning Lana, perhaps she will be helpful with Tapu Fini. And Mallow Tapu Bulu. Not sure about Tapu Lele, maybe that's why Ash and Pikachu are seeing it alone in the upcoming episode. Maybe Serena could return with Sylveon and an evolved Delphox to help with that Psychic/Fairy combination.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DatsRight View Post
    I agree I hope they keep the premise of Sophociles training Ash and Pikachu and utilising them as a guinea pig of sorts. So much potential both in dynamic story and humour value. He's our second Electric specialist/scientist combo. At least use this one fully, especially with this Electric rivalry where he's come in handy.

    Concerning Lana, perhaps she will be helpful with Tapu Fini. And Mallow Tapu Bulu. Not sure about Tapu Lele, maybe that's why Ash and Pikachu are seeing it alone in the upcoming episode. Maybe Serena could return with Sylveon and an evolved Delphox to help with that Psychic/Fairy combination.
    Companions don't usually get to return and be plot relevant. Not that I'd mind seeing Serena again. I personally want Bonnie to show up again but that's far, far more unlikely. Tapu Lee would probably connect with Lillie or given its Pokedex entry in Sun, Lillie would see her mother in it.
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    Or Mallow could help with Lele and Kiawe with Bulu.

    For all we know, Ash seeing Tapu Lele in SM20 could be foreshadowing the Akala arc and nothing more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DatsRight View Post
    I agree I hope they keep the premise of Sophociles training Ash and Pikachu and utilising them as a guinea pig of sorts. So much potential both in dynamic story and humour value. He's our second Electric specialist/scientist combo. At least use this one fully, especially with this Electric rivalry where he's come in handy.

    Concerning Lana, perhaps she will be helpful with Tapu Fini. And Mallow Tapu Bulu. Not sure about Tapu Lele, maybe that's why Ash and Pikachu are seeing it alone in the upcoming episode. Maybe Serena could return with Sylveon and an evolved Delphox to help with that Psychic/Fairy combination.
    Would she be back permanently? Cause bringing her back temporarily and forcing her into the main plot without giving her a reason for being in Alola would be silly..... I really hope when she appears it's just not to see Ash.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Golden_Latias View Post
    Or Mallow could help with Lele and Kiawe with Bulu.

    For all we know, Ash seeing Tapu Lele in SM20 could be foreshadowing the Akala arc and nothing more.
    It's pretty much what I'm expecting

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zoruagible View Post
    Would she be back permanently? Cause bringing her back temporarily and forcing her into the main plot without giving her a reason for being in Alola would be silly..... I really hope when she appears it's just not to see Ash.
    Nah, I was just thinking for a temporary plot involving Lele, and even then I was just grasping straws.

    Thinking more about it, there's an opportunity for all the companions to be useful to Ash this series if used right. We know where Lillie will likely come in pivotal and she has the bonus of being very knowledgable about Pokemon in this interpretation. Kaiwe seems to be helping Ash with Z Moves. Sophocles seems set up to help with Pikachu vs Tapu Koko due to his Electric specialty. Lana and Mallow are potential water and grass specialists so could assist with two other Tapus (especially if Ash gets a water type).

    Combined with Ash himself being arguably the most experienced and having his own level of insight, this could actually be a rather balanced chemistry despite the twice as large group. Of course 'could' occurs a lot with the Pokemon anime.
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    Kiawe and Bulu would be ironically amazing because Kiawe is a serious person who works hard on his farm, training and farm deliveries.

    Meanwhile Bulu is peaceful and lazy af

    If Serena did return, please be for Psychic Z-move, please leave Fairium-Z for Mina.
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    I'd personally prefer if they didn't shove Serena into the main plot.
    The writers already have a hard time juggling the six characters we have already and adding in another one would just be asking for trouble.

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    Quote Originally Posted by desdar300 View Post
    I'd personally prefer if they didn't shove Serena into the main plot.
    The writers already have a hard time juggling the six characters we have already and adding in another one would just be asking for trouble.
    I reiterate that past companions don't return for the main plot. The most they ever get is side plots (May in the Wallace Cup).
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    Something that just passed through my mind. Do you think we will see Mohn at present or only through flashbacks?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darthlord7 View Post
    Something that just passed through my mind. Do you think we will see Mohn at present or only through flashbacks?
    To be honest, I don't know if we'll see Mohn at all, but if we do, it's likely to be only through flashbacks unless the writers actually include PokéPelago in the anime. He is the catalyst for Lusamine's descent into madness, so I doubt we will see him in the present.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Satomine Night View Post
    To be honest, I don't know if we'll see Mohn at all, but if we do, it's likely to be only through flashbacks unless the writers actually include PokéPelago in the anime. He is the catalyst for Lusamine's descent into madness, so I doubt we will see him in the present.
    it'd be nice if the anime filled the holes that SM left regarding Mohn though. Not sure if they're saving it for the next gen or if they're just gonna leave that open.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Satomine Night View Post
    To be honest, I don't know if we'll see Mohn at all, but if we do, it's likely to be only through flashbacks unless the writers actually include PokéPelago in the anime. He is the catalyst for Lusamine's descent into madness, so I doubt we will see him in the present.
    I hope for him to somehow gain a more active role in the anime rather than having him only being the plot-device for Lusamine's insanity. In the anime plot, I would like to see him being rescued from the Ultra Space and return to his family. It would be a fitting ending imho.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darthlord7 View Post
    I hope for him to somehow gain a more active role in the anime rather than having him only being the plot-device for Lusamine's insanity. In the anime plot, I would like to see him being rescued from the Ultra Space and return to his family. It would be a fitting ending imho.
    Agreed, although Poke Pelago would make for a super Pikachu Short!

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    Quote Originally Posted by lemoncatpower View Post
    Agreed, although Poke Pelago would make for a super Pikachu Short!
    I would love that, but I'm afraid that Poke Pelago will probably receive the Super Training treatment in the anime.

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    Just occurred to me that if we're having a stationary setting, then Hano Grand Resort could be an ideal location for a schools out/school trip sort of thing.

    No idea how close Kiawe lives to it but it's a luxurious hotel so I doubt he would oppose much. Also gives opporunity for more fanservice bait beach episodes and we may get to see Kahili as well which could flesh her out.

    Oh and bring back Delia for a small while too...
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