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    Quote Originally Posted by SinnohEevee View Post
    Can we pretend Best Wishes isn't canon? No way BW Ash is the same individual as OS to DP plus XY Ash.
    After such a devastating loss to Tobias he decided not to give a f*ck anymore and just treat the Unova region like a big vacation.





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    Quote Originally Posted by PokemonBattleFanatic- View Post
    After such a devastating loss to Tobias he decided not to give a f*ck anymore and just treat the Unova region like a big vacation.
    Devastating loss? Everyone else lost 6-0 and Ash lost 6-2, how is that devastating?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 345ash-greninja View Post
    Devastating loss? Everyone else lost 6-0 and Ash lost 6-2, how is that devastating?
    I don't know about everyone going 6-0 against him, but yeah Tobias only used Darkrai until he battled Ash and had to use a second Pokemon for the first time iirc. I think that meant that Ash was the second strongest trainer in the Sinnoh League.
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    We kinda need the benchmark that gym leaders and champions are similar in strength across regions, or else there is really nothing we can use to compare Ash's pokemon across regions. You can't disprove that Muk > Greninja (since its possible that everyone in Kanto was god-like compared to everyone in Kalos)

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    Quote Originally Posted by snorlax512 View Post
    We kinda need the benchmark that gym leaders and champions are similar in strength across regions, or else there is really nothing we can use to compare Ash's pokemon across regions. You can't disprove that Muk > Greninja (since its possible that everyone in Kanto was god-like compared to everyone in Kalos)
    Yeah, that's a clear point, plus Steven and Diantha did not Mega Evolve their aces all the time, they only did it when they saw that their opponents were that strong. As we all know, Diantha wrecked Magnus's Absol without Mega Evolving her Gardevoir.
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    Harrison vs Paul(Cynthia battle) 6 on 6

    Harrison
    • Blaziken
    • Sneasel
    • Houndoom
    • Steelix
    • Hypno
    • Kecleon



    Paul
    • Torterra
    • Weavile
    • Chimchar
    • Ursaring
    • Elekid
    • Murkrow

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    Morrison vs Paul(Post Hearthome City Arc) 6 on 6

    Morrison
    • Swampert
    • Gligar
    • Growlithe
    • Metang
    • Steelix
    • Girafarig



    Paul
    • Ursaring
    • Murkrow
    • Torterra
    • Gliscor
    • Electabuzz
    • Weavile


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    Katie vs Paul(Pyramid King Brandon battle) 6 on 6

    Katie
    • Golduck
    • Dugtrio
    • Scizor
    • Misdreavus
    • Walrein
    • Venomoth



    Paul
    • Electabuzz
    • Hariyama
    • Lairon
    • Nidoking
    • Magmar
    • Ursaring


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    Tyson vs Paul(Lake Acuity) 6 on 6

    Tyson
    • Sceptile
    • Meowth
    • Shiftry
    • Metagross
    • Donphan
    • Hariyama



    Paul
    • Magmortar
    • Ursaring
    • Weavile
    • Electabuzz
    • Honchkrow
    • Torterra





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    Quote Originally Posted by PokemonBattleFanatic- View Post
    Harrison vs Paul(Cynthia battle) 6 on 6

    Harrison
    • Blaziken
    • Sneasel
    • Houndoom
    • Steelix
    • Hypno
    • Kecleon



    Paul
    • Torterra
    • Weavile
    • Chimchar
    • Ursaring
    • Elekid
    • Murkrow

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    Morrison vs Paul(Post Hearthome City Arc) 6 on 6

    Morrison
    • Swampert
    • Gligar
    • Growlithe
    • Metang
    • Steelix
    • Girafarig



    Paul
    • Ursaring
    • Murkrow
    • Torterra
    • Gliscor
    • Electabuzz
    • Weavile


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    Katie vs Paul(Pyramid King Brandon battle) 6 on 6

    Katie
    • Golduck
    • Dugtrio
    • Scizor
    • Misdreavus
    • Walrein
    • Venomoth



    Paul
    • Electabuzz
    • Hariyama
    • Lairon
    • Nidoking
    • Magmar
    • Ursaring


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    Tyson vs Paul(Lake Acuity) 6 on 6

    Tyson
    • Sceptile
    • Meowth
    • Shiftry
    • Metagross
    • Donphan
    • Hariyama



    Paul
    • Magmortar
    • Ursaring
    • Weavile
    • Electabuzz
    • Honchkrow
    • Torterra
    Paul vs Harrison-

    Elekid vs Kecleon- Elekid
    Elekid vs Sneasel- Elekid(barely)
    Elekid vs Hypno- Hypno(easy revenge kill)
    Weavile vs Hypno- Weavile
    Weavile vs Houndoom- Houndoom
    Chimchar vs Houndoom- Chimchar
    Chimchar vs Steelix- Steelix
    Murkrow vs Steelix- Draw
    Ursaring vs Blaziken- Blaziken
    Torterra vs Blaziken- Torterra(barely)

    Paul barely wins 6-5

    Paul vs Morrison-

    Murkrow vs Swampert- Draw
    Gliscor vs Girafarig- Gliscor
    Gliscor vs Growlithe- Gliscor
    Gliscor vs Gligar- Gligar
    Weavile vs Gligar- Gligar
    Ursaring vs Gligar- Ursaring
    Ursaring vs Steelix- Steelix
    Electabuzz vs Steelix- Electabuzz
    Electabuzz vs Metang- Metang
    Torterra vs Metang- Torterra(comfortably)

    Paul wins 6-5 decisively

    Paul vs Katie-

    Lairon vs Golduck- Golduck
    Hariyama vs Golduck- Hariyama
    Hariyama vs Dugtrio- Dugtrio
    Electabuzz vs Dugtrio- Electabuzz(Brick Break)
    Electabuzz vs Misdreavus- Draw(Destiny Bond)
    Magmar vs Venomoth- Magmar
    Magmar vs Scizor- Draw
    Nidoking vs Walrein- Walrein
    Ursaring vs Walrein- Ursaring(barely)

    Paul wins 6-5 barely

    Paul vs Tyson-

    Weavile vs Shiftry- Weavile
    Weavile vs Sceptile- Sceptile
    Magmortar vs Sceptile- Magmortar
    Magmortar vs Hariyama- Hariyama
    Honchkrow vs Hariyama- Honchkrow
    Honchkrow vs Donphan- Draw
    Ursaring vs Metagross- Ursaring
    Ursaring vs Meowth- Meowth
    Electabuzz vs Meowth- Draw or Meowth barely
    (Torterra gets an easy revenge kill if Meowth survives)

    Paul wins 6-5 decisively

    I've given my hypothetical play outs based on how strong Paul's Pokemon were at the respective times.
    Last edited by 345ash-greninja; 21st April 2017 at 11:15 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Trollbias View Post
    And you know this how? There have been cases of Mega-Evolved Pokemon losing to non-Mega Evolved Pokemon? Your statement implies that there is parity between Cynthis'a Garchmop, Diantha's Gardevoir and Steven's Metagross before ME, which as U.N. Owen has already stated, you CANNOT prove.
    Both displayed similar features including one-shotting an Elite Four member with a very ineffective move (Cynthia vs. Lucian and Diantha vs. Wilkstrom), so they're seen equally yet Diantha edges out once we factor in Mega Evolution for both Diantha and Wilkstrom.

    I'd be dumbfounded if you're implying that not only is Base Garchomp > Mega Gardevoir, but that Sinnoh's Elite Four (w/o Mega Evolution) is actually stronger than Kalos's Mega Elite Four. That's asinine honestly since there is nothing that would even suggest there being a large gap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 345ash-greninja View Post
    Yeah, that's a clear point, plus Steven and Diantha did not Mega Evolve their aces all the time, they only did it when they saw that their opponents were that strong. As we all know, Diantha wrecked Magnus's Absol without Mega Evolving her Gardevoir.
    Base Gardevoir would defeat Wilkstrom's Base Scizor in one-hit which puts it on roughly the same playing field since Base Garchomp's best feat is defeating Lucian's Bronzong in one-shot. Both are very comparable.

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    It's hard to compare without stats about their Pokémon.
    Or maybe not even that mean a thing in the anime.
    No Pokémon is cuter than Eevee.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ash-Pikachu View Post
    Base Gardevoir would defeat Wilkstrom's Base Scizor in one-hit which puts it on roughly the same playing field since Base Garchomp's best feat is defeating Lucian's Bronzong in one-shot. Both are very comparable.
    One problem with this thought is that Base Gardevoir probably can't fire a gamma-ray Moonblast like Mega Gardevoir. But it will still be a lopsided fight if we power scale from what Mega Gardevoir did to Wikstrom's Mega Scizor.
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    Cynthia vs Tobias 6 on 2
    Brandon vs Tobias 6 on 2
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    Indigo Ash vs Kalos Ash 3v3

    Johto Ash vs Unova Ash 6v6

    Hoenn Ash vs Sinnoh Ash 2v2
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    Quote Originally Posted by SinnohEevee View Post
    Cynthia vs Tobias 6 on 2
    Brandon vs Tobias 6 on 2
    Cynthia vs Tobias-

    Gastrodon vs Darkrai- Darkrai(barely)
    Garchomp vs Darkrai- Garchomp(easy revenge kill)
    Garchomp vs Latios- Garchomp(good fight, but Garchomp wins decisively)

    Brandon vs Tobias-

    Ninjask vs Darkrai- Darkrai
    Solrock vs Darkrai- Darkrai
    Dusclops vs Darkrai- Darkrai
    Regice vs Darkrai- Regice(quite damaged)
    Regice vs Latios- Latios
    Registeel vs Latios- Latios(damaged)
    Regirock vs Latios- Regirock(Regirock barely pulls out the victory because of Latios being damaged earlier)
    Quote Originally Posted by TheWanderingMist View Post
    Indigo Ash vs Kalos Ash 3v3

    Johto Ash vs Unova Ash 6v6

    Hoenn Ash vs Sinnoh Ash 2v2
    I'm giving out my hypothetical play outs based on the peak teams of every region, otherwise it will be problematic, as we know Charizard was disobedient in Indigo. I'm considering Peakachu and the best incarnation of Charizard everywhere.

    Indigo Ash vs Kalos Ash-

    Bulbasaur vs Hawlucha- Bulbasaur
    Bulbasaur vs Pikachu- Pikachu(easy revenge kill)
    Pikachu vs Pikachu- Draw
    Charizard vs Ash-Greninja- Ash-Greninja(good fight, but Ash-Greninja wins definitively in the end, more so due to type advantage as well)

    Johto Ash vs Unova Ash-

    Totodile vs Snivy- Snivy
    Bayleef vs Snivy- Bayleef
    Bayleef vs Palpitoad- Palpitoad(barely)
    Noctowl vs Palpitoad- Noctowl(easy revenge kill)
    Noctowl vs Leavanny- Noctowl(type advantage)
    Noctowl vs Pignite- Pignite
    Donphan vs Pignite- Pignite(damaged)
    Quilava vs Pignite- Quilava(barely)
    Quilava vs Krookodile- Krookodile
    Heracross vs Krookodile- Heracross(barely, due to type advantage)
    Heracross vs Pikachu- Pikachu(easily)
    Pikachu vs Pikachu- Draw(if Heracross manages to get a bit of damage on Unova Peakachu, then Then Johto Peakachu wins barely)

    Hoenn Ash vs Sinnoh Ash-

    Swellow vs Infernape- Infernape
    Pikachu vs Infernape- Pikachu(Infernape's Blaze activates due to being damaged and it does quite some damage on Pikachu)
    Pikachu vs Pikachu- Sinnoh Pikachu(pretty comfortably, due to Hoenn Pikachu taking damage earlier)
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