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    Default Official Tier Thread for Ash's Pokemon

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    Got this idea from a post by DrLazyEyes. We actually do need a tier list for all of Ash's Pokemon. In this thread, make a tier list and where all of Ash's Pokemon rank. Discuss where Pokemon should go and all that whatnot.

    Classifications:
    Tier 0(Highest)
    Tier 1
    Tier 2
    Tier 3
    Tier 4
    Tier 5(Lowest)
    (I included two extra because Ash has a lot of Pokemon)

    Also there are other classifications I have seen.

    High tier 1
    Middle Tier 1
    Low Tier 1

    etc...

    Here is an example: Ash's Snivy is definitely high tier 2(just an example)

    Also I will be listing all of Ash's Pokemon, including the ones he had traded, in training, or has released. Whether you want to include these Pokemon or not are your choice. I would. I also included deevolutions, DO NOT INCLUDE THESE because the only reason they are there is because I'm lazy and I copy paste.

    Ash's Pokemon:01. Pikachu

    02. Caterpie - Metapod - Butterfree

    05. Pidgeotto - Pidgeot

    07. Bulbasaur

    08. Charmander - Charmeleon - Charizard

    11. Squirtle

    12. Krabby - Kingler

    14. Raticate

    15. Primeape

    16. Muk

    17. Tauros(x however many he has)

    18. Lapras

    19. Snorlax

    20. Krabby

    21. Pidgeot

    22. Heracross

    23. Chikorita

    24. Cyndaquil

    25. Totodile

    26. Noctowl

    27. Beedrill

    28. Bayleef

    29. Phanpy

    30. Taillow

    31. Corphish

    32. Torkoal

    33. Grovyle

    34. Swellow

    35. Snorunt

    36. Aipom

    37. Donphan

    38. Sceptile

    39. Starly - Staravia

    41. Turtwig

    42. Chimchar

    43. Gligar - Gliscor

    45. Grotle

    46. Gible

    47. Staraptor

    48. Monferno

    49. Infernape

    50. Torterra

    51. Quilava

    52. Pidove - Tranquil

    53. Oshawott

    54. Tepig - Pignite

    56. Snivy

    57. Scraggy

    58. Sewaddle - Swadloon

    60. Palpitoad

    61. Roggenrola

    62. Krokorok - Krookodile

    64. Boldore

    65. Unfezant

    66. Leavanny

    67. Pignite

    68. Froakie

    69. Fletchling - Fletchinder

    71. Hawlucha

    72. Goomy - Sliggoo - Goodra

    75. Noibat - Noivern

    76. Frogadier - Greninja - Ash-Greninja

    77. Talonflame

    78. Rowlet


    All Serebii rules apply! Other then that enjoy debating and discussing where Ash's Pokemon rank!

    PS: If this thread needs to be moved to Anime Polls, I will gladly move it.

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    Tier 1(Highest) Charizard, Pikachu, Infernape, Sceptile, Krookidile, Goodra, Greninja

    Tier 2 Snorlax, Heracross, Snivy, Staraptor, Swellow, Noivern, Hawlucha, Buizel, Muk, Gliscor

    Tier 3(Lowest) Everyone else, I'm not typing out every Pokemon he has
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zoruagible View Post
    Tier 1(Highest) Charizard, Pikachu, Infernape, Sceptile, Krookidile, Goodra, Greninja

    Tier 2 Snorlax, Heracross, Snivy, Staraptor, Swellow, Noivern, Hawlucha, Buizel, Muk, Gliscor

    Tier 3(Lowest) Everyone else, I'm not typing out every Pokemon he has
    Goodra definitely isn't a tier 1, it's either a tier 2 at best or tier 3
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pokegirl Fan~ View Post
    Goodra definitely isn't a tier 1, it's either a tier 2 at best or tier 3
    You don't like Goodra, of course you'd say that.
    He's more powerful than anyone anybody could possibly say was a tier 2 mon.
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    Yeah I'm gonna have to type up every single Pokemon he has.

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    I feel like I've seen these tier postings somewhere else before.

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    Quote Originally Posted by _LightMeww_ View Post
    Not really, this is a tier thread and I haven't seen this.

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    Tier 0: Ash-Greninja

    High Tier 1: Charizard, Peakachu

    Mid Tier 1: Sceptile, Infernape

    Low Tier 1: Snorlax

    High Tier 2: Krookadile, Swellow, Heracross

    Mid Tier 2: Bulbasaur, Glalie, Gliscor, Kingler

    Low Tier 2: Squirtle, Hawlucha , Goodra

    High Tier 3: Torterra, Gible, Pignite, Talonflame, Torkoal

    Mid Tier 3: Corphish, Buisel, Staraptor, Quilava and Snivy because I like her

    Low Tier 3: Noivern, Noctowl, Donphan, Tauros

    Trash: Muk, Totodile, Scraggy, Oshawatt, Boldore, Unfezant and the rest of BW pokemon
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    - Tier 0
    Peakachu, Charizard, (Ash-)Greninja

    - Tier 1
    Snorlax, Sceptile, (Blaze) Infernape, Krookodile

    - Tier 2
    Bulbasaur, Squirtle, Kingler, Heracross, Swellow, Glalie, Gliscor, Gible, Hawlucha

    - Tier 3
    Tauros, Bayleef, Quilava, Noctowl, Corphish, Torkoal, Torterra, Staraptor, Buizel, Pignite, Talonflame, Goodra, Noivern

    - Tier 4
    Muk, Donphan, Snivy, Leavanny, Palpitoad

    - Tier 5
    Totodile, Oshawatt, Unfezzant, Scraggy, Boldore



    I didn't bother doing sub-tiers this time since I sincerely doubt that PAD as a community will ever come to a consensus regarding the correct sub-tier for a Pokémon though I do think we have a decent shot at coming to a consensus regarding what "range" of ability does each Pokémon fit into with relation to its peers. I'll give a thorough explanation for why I've placed each Pokémon where I did at a later date when I have more free time. I also didn't include the following: Buterfree, Primape, Pidgeot, Lapras.Feel free to express any disagreements any of you may have with my list.

    EDIT: Made a few minor changes
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    Quote Originally Posted by Genaller View Post
    - Tier 0
    Peakachu, Charizard, (Ash-)Greninja

    - Tier 1
    Snorlax, Sceptile, (Blaze) Infernape, Krookodile

    - Tier 2
    Bulbasaur, Kingler, Heracross, Swellow, Glalie, Gliscor, Hawlucha

    - Tier 3
    Squirtle, Bayleef, Quilava, Noctowl, Corphish, Torkoal, Torterra, Staraptor, Buizel, Gible, Pignite, Talonflame, Goodra, Noivern

    - Tier 4
    Muk, Tauros, Donphan, Snivy, Leavanny, Palpitoad

    - Tier 5
    Totodile, Oshawatt, Unfezzant, Scraggy, Boldore



    I didn't bother doing sub-tiers this time since I sincerely doubt that PAD as a community will ever come to a consensus regarding the correct sub-tier for a Pokémon though I do think we have a decent shot at coming to a consensus regarding what "range" of ability does each Pokémon fit into with relation to its peers. I'll give a thorough explanation for why I've placed each Pokémon where I did at a later date when I have more free time. I also didn't include the following: Buterfree, Primape, Pidgeot, Lapras.Feel free to express any disagreements any of you may have with my list.
    I'll include a tier 0 as well

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zoruagible View Post
    You don't like Goodra, of course you'd say that.
    He's more powerful than anyone anybody could possibly say was a tier 2 mon.
    I like Goodra but no way is he a Tier 1. His 100% win rate prior to the League was inflated by his only 2 battles at the time: vs. Tierno (not exactly an accomplishment) and vs. Clemont's Luxray (battled Hawlucha and Pikachu before Goodra, albeit both Goodra and Luxray were not at full health at the start of their battle). The minute it came back, it tied against a Slurpuff (a good feat, given that its a Dragon vs. a Fairy, but certainly not a Tier 1 worthy accomplishment), then got beaten by a weakened Bisharp (that was a bad showing, regardless of Guillotine). Tier 2 is a better tier for it.

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    Oh look it's the new year and already yet another iteration of "Rank Ash's Pokemon" thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maldread View Post
    Oh look it's the new year and already yet another iteration of "Rank Ash's Pokemon" thread.
    Why can't we ever get these for Misty, Dawn, Paul, or whoever instead?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maldread View Post
    Oh look it's the new year and already yet another iteration of "Rank Ash's Pokemon" thread.
    To be fair PAD has evolved from the variant that more or less settled on your tiering system so it isn't odd for there to be a new thread for this. Also PAD has pretty much been debating Ash Pokémon tiers (directly or indirectly) constantly for the last quarter of last year.

    Please let's keep this thread civil (this is for everyone). It's fine to disagree and discuss certain placements and issues but please atleast try to empathize with the other person's viewpoint instead of directly considering them to be intellectually inferior in some capacity.
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    Goodra seems to be a pokemon whose consensus within PAD can't even be settled within tiers. I have seen people who rate him as Tier 1, 2, 3 and even 4 lol.

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    I'll give my own spin on it;

    Tier 0 - God Level



    Tier 1 - Almost God Level



    Tier 2 - Strong Level (But not strong enough to be considered for God Level)



    Tier 3 - Average Level



    Tier 4 - Below Average Level



    Tier 5 - Weakest Level

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    Tier 0
    Greninja(Ash-Greninja)

    High Tier 1
    Charizard, Pikachu(Peakachu)

    Mid Tier 1
    Infernape(Blaze), Sceptile

    Low Tier 1
    Snorlax

    High Tier 2
    Krookodile, Swellow

    Mid Tier 2
    Bulbasaur, Kingler, Heracross, Glalie

    Low Tier 2
    Gliscor, Hawlucha, Goodra

    High Tier 3
    Staraptor, Talonflame, Buizel, Gible, Pignite, Quilava, Squirtle, Corphish

    Mid Tier 3
    Noctowl, Bayleef, Leavanny, Donphan, Aipom(while it was under Ash's ownership)

    Low Tier 3
    Torkoal, Torterra, Noivern

    High Tier 4
    Snivy, Palpitoad, Scraggy, Unfezant

    Mid Tier 4
    Muk, Lapras, Boldore, Tauros, Primeape

    Low Tier 4
    Oshawott, Totodile

    Tier 5
    Pidgeot, Butterfree
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    Goodra is so overrated. Literally nothing to show that he was better than a mid-level Ash mon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maldread View Post
    Goodra is so overrated. Literally nothing to show that he was better than a mid-level Ash mon.
    Yes, it's like Goodra didn't defeat Clemont's Luxray, the Blue Flower Florges and almost single handedly win the double battle against Tierno, right? It's obviously a Tier 2 Pokemon, not Tier 3.
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    3 wins does not make a tier 1 Pokemon.

    Otherwise Serena's entire team > Ash-Greninja.

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    Let's keep the discussion and debates nice and friendly

    No trolling either...I'm looking at you right now Frozocrone

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    Quote Originally Posted by 345ash-greninja View Post
    Yes, it's like Goodra didn't defeat Clemont's Luxray, the Blue Flower Florges and almost single handedly win the double battle against Tierno, right? It's obviously a Tier 2 Pokemon, not Tier 3.
    You proved my point. It has one of the most average resumes for an Ash Pokemon. It underwhelmed at the league.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frozocrone View Post
    3 wins does not make a tier 1 Pokemon.

    Otherwise Serena's entire team > Ash-Greninja.
    It's definitely Tier 2 I believe, but yes definitely not Tier 1 or 3.

    And Maldread, 3 wins and 1 loss isn't an average record.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Power Up View Post
    Let's keep the discussion and debates nice and friendly

    No trolling either...I'm looking at you right now Frozocrone
    But Sylveon is god tier :/

    I had't realised people were using tier 0. I've always reserved tier 0 for completely broken stuff and considering Ash has never won anything, I don't see how any of them could fit into tier 0 with my take on tier 0. Maybe Pikachu, considering the Orange Islands and Battle Frontier (then again Snivy so eh).

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