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Thread: Community POTW #065

  1. #1
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    Jan 2004
    Bournemouth, England

    Default Community POTW #065

    Time for the next Pokémon, and this week we have a classic, and very useful in VGC, Pokémon

    It's Sylveon!

  2. #2
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    Jan 2007


    Sylveon is pretty decent. It's often seen spamming Pixilate Hyper Voice, but it can also do some other stuff.

    Sylveon @ Normalium Z
    Calm nature
    252 HP, 252 Def, 4 Sp.Def
    Ability: Cute Charm
    -Baton Pass
    -Substitute / Calm Mind

    Z-Celebrate boosts Sylveon's stats by +1, allowing it to become quite strong. After this you can either go on the offensive with Moonblast and attempt a sweep or go for Baton Pass. Calm Mind and Substitute are other things it can pass. Cute Charm is obligatory since Pixilate is illegal with Celebrate, but it's not bad; a lot of foes would try to go with physical attacks which often make contact against Sylveon, and if it triggers it can give you a free turn when the opponent has to switch to get rid of the infatuation. Or you can Substitute until they get immobilised by love and then get a Baton Pass with the Substitute and the +1 stats.

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    Oct 2017


    +Mono Fairy typing with 95/65/130 bulk is hard to break, at least specially
    +Pixilate + Hyper Voice gives Sylveon powerful wall breaking potential
    +Unlike Mega gardevoir, sylveon doesn't require a mega slot to fit into a team
    +Good support move pool with wish and heal bell

    -Pretty outclassed by other fairies like Mega Gardevoir and Primarina as a wallbreaker
    -Low Speed and Defense makes it easy to revenge kill
    -Lackluster move pool outside of hidden power coverage

    Cute Charm: Physical contact with Sylveon has a chance to infatuate the opponent if they are of the opposite gender. This requires Sylveon to survive the physical attack, and be of the opposite gender of said attacker, and to top it off it only has a 30% chance of triggering. This ability is completely inferior to Pixilate.

    Pixilate: This ability gives Sylveon actual offensive presence, boosting the power of its normal type moves by 20% and turning them into STAB Fairy-type moves. While the only move that Sylveon can really make use of for this ability is Hyper Voice, its basically all it needs, becoming a 90 base power fairy-type spread move that gets a 20% power boost.


    Nature: Modest
    Ability: Pixilate
    Ev's: 252HP/4Def/252Spa
    Item: Life Orb/Choice Specs
    -Hyper Voice
    -Hidden Power Fire
    -Shadow Ball

    Since Sylveon is so slow, it's far more efficient to invest in bulk rather than speed. Hyper Voice is the main stab, punching holes through walls that don't resist it. Hidden power fire is Sylveon's only way of dealing with Steel types that otherwise wall it. Psyshock hits specially defensive pokemon for physical damage, and also hits Poison types. Shadow ball is literally just there as a 4th move because Sylveon's move pool is so lacking, although it does hit Alolan Marowak.

    Nature: Bold
    Ability: Pixilate
    Ev's: 252Hp/252Def/4Spa
    Item: Leftovers
    -Hyper Voice
    -Heal Bell

    Hyper Voice hits through substitutes, which can be very useful to catch your opponent off-guard. Wish allows Sylveon to either heal itself or an ally, with Protect stalling a turn for wish to activate and restore Sylveon to full health. Heal bell clears any status conditions in your party, which can help your crippled sweepers get back on their feet. Maximum HP and Defense investments make sylveon as tanky as possible, and since Wish heals based on the user's Max HP, a higher HP stat=larger heal.

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    Feb 2015


    Sylveon has unfortunately lost a lot of its usage in VGC. The Pixilate nerf hurts a lot, and it's also the reason you don't see Mega Gardevoir as much anymore either. Still, a Specs boosted Hyper Voice from this thing hurts a lot. Lots of common mons such as Mega Metagross, Ferrothorn, Stakataka, and Mega Charizard Y can usually take an attack and dish huge damage back to this set, however. If Specs isn't for you, then Helping Hand + 50% berries is another route for Sylveon, as this set can also use Protect to allow a partner to handle the threats listed above or give a HH boost. It is to be noted that Kommo-o's Soundproof will block Hyper Voice, so it does help to tech Moonblast onto both variants. Due to its low speed, it helps to pair offensive Sylveon with a TR or Tailwind user.

  5. #5
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    Oct 2017


    Guess I'll add a VGC bit to make sure there's enough material for Sunday.

    Nature: Modest/Quiet
    Ability: Pixilate
    Ev's: 252 HP/4 Def/252 Spa
    Item: Life Orb/Pixie Plate/Expert Belt
    -Hyper Voice
    -Hidden Power Fire/Hidden Power Ground
    -Helping Hand/Psyshock/Shadow Ball

    Despite Pixilate getting nerfed this generation, the damage bonus getting lowered from 30% to 20%, Sylveon remains a potent special attacker in the VGC meta game, despite competition from Both Tapu Lele and Mega Gardevoir as fairy-type wallbreakers. Sylveon's niche lies in its mono-fairy typing making it a better defensive team member than Tapu Lele, and not taking your mega slot like Gardevoir, making it easier to fit onto teams. Hyper voice is a powerful spread move that can deal a hefty chunk of damage when boosted by either a life orb or a pixie plate. Since Sylveon is walled by steel types, Hidden powers Fire or Ground allow it to hit steel types like Celesteela, Aegislash, and Ferrothorn. An expert belt can be used to help shore up the weak base power (60) so it will actually deal noticeable damage. Protect is a VGC staple, dodging damage for a turn while also stalling out important factors like Terrain effects, Tailwind or trick room. Sylveon can use its final move slot for additional coverage, or it can utilize helping hand to boost the power of it's allies attacks, especially if said ally has a favorable match-up against your opponents Pokemon where Sylveon does not.

    A quiet nature can be used if your team is running trick room, since Sylveon's base 60 speed usually lets it out speed key threats under trick room. If your team is running Tailwind or not utilizing trick room, Modest should be used instead to ensure Sylveon's speed is optimized without any actual investment, while maintaining as much power as possible. Sylveon also benefits from Grassy Terrain, offering it some sustainability by restoring lost HP every turn.

    Sylveon appreciates team mates who can handle steel and poison types that threaten it, such as Garchomp and Heatran. Intimidate abusers like Landorus-T and Scrafty are also good considerations since the Intimidate drop will help to patch up Sylveon's Shoddy defense stat a little bit. Aurora Veil is a good consideration that makes Sylveon incredibly bulky, but the only user of Aurora Veil is Alolan Ninetails, which is also a frail, special attacking Fairy type, meaning your team will be incredibly unbalanced should you have both of them on the same team.

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