So I discussed with a couple mods and decided that we're going to put a new rule -- well, less a rule than an indicator and reminder -- into effect.
I've been thinking about things recently, and it's occured to me that a lot of you don't accept any form of criticism, be it a short post full of helpful tips, blunt and open criticism, or outright flames. Now, the latter I could understand, but the former two (yes, even blunt criticism in MOST cases), well...
Point is, I don't quite think some of you understand the purpose of posting in this here art forum.
One of the unspoken golden rules of posting art here, on devART, on SheezyArt, or anywhere on the internet, really, is that if you don't want criticism of any form, then you don't put it up at all. If you're looking for mindless praise or zombie-like dribble about how omg awesome your picture is no matter how horrendous OR beautiful it actually is, then the internet -- specifically, this forum -- is not the place to be showing it off.
Sometimes we don't like to be criticised harshly and don't welcome it. This is fine. I have no problem with you not wanting someone to be bluntly telling you "well, I think it sucks because...", since this can be hurtful even if it isn't a personal thing. But dismissing tips just because "they don't help/I don't like them/I don't want to improve/etc."? There's something not right about that.
It should be common sense that there is no such thing as a perfect artist and there is always room for improvement in some way, yadda yadda, you've heard this before, I'm sure. But age, artistic ability, and newness/time in this forum are all completely irrelevant to who gets criticism and who doesn't, and in what way. It's a part of the internet and the process of improvement, and no matter how many times you put it in big bold bright red size 72 font that you don't want any criticism, it's going to happen, and you're going to need to accept it eventually if you expect to continue posting art anywhere on the interbutt.
We have harsh critics in this forum, yes. And at times, I am one of them. But as long as they're not stepping over the boundaries of flaming, they have every right to say what they will of your art as long as they justify their opinion. (Ex. "I don't like this picture much because the thick lines really take away from the style of the coloring and the rest of the picture.")
I know this is getting a bit tl;dr, but there's more to say about this. You may be thinking something like "oh, no, now people are going to give me all kinds of mean replies!" And I don't want anyone to feel like they are now powerless against critics. You still have the right to disagree. You still have the right to not take their advice if you so desire. You still have the right to report any flame wars that may break out, or flamebaiting posts that think they have the complete authority to post an insult to your art.
Just keep in mind that blowing off someone because they gave you criticism of a certain level of bluntness?
- Please don't ever be afraid to disagree with critics, no matter how harsh their responses might be. If they ever step over the line, action will be taken, because this isn't an open invitation for people to start flaming every picture they think is horrible.
- When someone gives you tips or criticism, whining is unacceptable. You posted it, and just by posting in the art forum, you pretty much waive your right to complain about people giving you their honest opinions about your creations.
- The point of this forum remains: it's a forum both for displaying your art and for the opportunity to improve and receive feedback. It doesn't mean you can ignore all your comments and continue to do what you do if you know you're doing something that could be done better.
- Keep the idea of respect in mind when replying to your critics. If one or more of them is borderline-flamebaiting, you can reply politely and say "I disagree", you can ignore them, or you can report them and mods will take a look at it.
- Note that, as stated above, this new rule is not in any way, shape, or form encouraging you to flame. Flaming is still absolutely unacceptable and will be taken care of appropriately. It's also not an excuse to start flame wars or to harp on the artist about what you feel is terrible about the art until they decide to cave in and take your advice. Because that's what it is: advice. It is not to be forced on the artist in any way.
- Keep the idea of respect in mind at all times, as stated above. This also applies to the critics. If you think your reply is too harsh or will provoke the artist negatively, perhaps you should word it differently or add a disclaimer that you don't want to artist to feel it's an attack on their art.
tl;dr version: Respect is, for both parties, the most important component of this forum. That means that there is to be no whining or screaming or insulting from either the artists or the critics when someone posts a critique of any form. This isn't really a rule, I just felt it would be best to remind some people of this important, unspoken rule that, unfortunately, does not come naturally to some people.
...So there you go.
Please keep in mind this applies for all subforums as well as the main forum; it's not like we don't have flame wars in fan sprites or fan comics ever either. Don't disregard this, no matter what part of the forum you're in.
Now, post questions/concerns/additional comments here. 8D
(...My hands hurt. D|)