The Symbol Life (413)

[The Great Butler]

Blast Burn is an attack only learned by Charizard in FR/LG (and Cyndaquil if you recieve it in XD) It's essentially a Fire-type Hyper Beam.

On to the episode, I enjoyed it quite a bit! The battle was very exciting (even though I knew the outcome long in advance) and seeing Articuno battling was entertaining as well. I must agree, however, that something was missing from this episode. I can't place what, but for having a legendary battle it seemed a little on the normal side....

[S.Suikun]

Hello.......have the writers totally forgotten about the Orange league episode "Charziard Chills" where Charizard got frozen by that trainer's Poliwrath's ice beam attack, and Ash and co. spent half the episode trying to thaw him out!

It's been trained a lot since then, however. Its body can likely withstand a cold attack much more effectively.

You must be Joking right, Blast Burn is the Ultimate Elemental Hyber Beam attack that any of the 2 Fire Starters from Kanto or Johto can learn. Johto via at least Pokemon XD Winning Mt. Battle and Kanto in FireRed/LeafGreen on 2 Island.

A) Not joking
B) Never played XD
C) Never played FR/LG
D) I haven't used a fire-type since Silver (Typhlosion), and this attack was obviously not available then.
E) I couldn't really obtain those two starters in Sapphire without FR/LG.

[Kabuto]

I thought it was stupid how Articuno kept shooting out it's ice beam attack on Charizard and it didn't even look like it fazed him in the slightest bit. Then someone from Ash's cheer group (either Brock, May, Max, or Scott) mentioned that Articuno's ice beam wasen't effective against Charizard because he's a fire-type?

Hello.......have the writers totally forgotten about the Orange league episode "Charziard Chills" where Charizard got frozen by that trainer's Poliwrath's ice beam attack, and Ash and co. spent half the episode trying to thaw him out!

That was a special case. It didn't hurt Charizard that much but it was frozen solid, ending the battle. Also, they shouldn't forget that fact that Charizard is part flying.

[WaterDragon trainer]

This was a great episode. Charizard cannot learn Dragonbreath, but hey, at least it's got another cool move (I like the move because of its paralyzing effect in the games). The battle between Charizard and Articuno was awesome. It was cool to see Mist and Charizard using Overheat. Just a couple of questions.

1) I noticed whenever an Ice Beam is used, it instantly freezes a target. In the games, there's only a measely 10% chance of freezing the opponent. What's up with that?

2) Does anyone know where to find the thread for the special "Mastermind of Mirage Pokemon"?

[Gravy]

I think the Grand Festival and Hoenn League seriously lowered you people's standards for animation. This was still visually sub-par.

Agreed. I suppose that for an episode directed by Takeda it was good, but that ain't saying much. But to say the animation was anything above average is quite frankly, laughable.

But then again, I've seen people praising the freaking second half of the Gro/Kyo double bill for it's animation, so whatever...

[lordrock]

I liked that overheat but i would've been vetter if it wouldn't have missed great battle but how dare them make articuno a legendary pokemon lost to a normal !!!!!!!

[Kabuto]

how dare them make articuno a legendary pokemon lost to a normal !!!!!!!

You are just used to legends being overglorified as the most powerful beings in the pokemon world. In the games, not all legends are more powerful than regulars. In fact in most cases, Charizard would wipe the floor with Articuno. Be grateful that they had Articuno put up such a great fight.

[Kev Chi]

Didn't see what was so special about Overheat, seeing as how Torkoal used it a gazillion times (or at least every one of the few times he appeared). Oh, and WTF is Blast Burn? So shoot me, I've never even heard of that attack.

Overheat = Hoenn Move. Charizard = Kanto Pokemon. Blast Burn is a speical move Charizard learns in FR/LG.

[Geodude]

Charizard cannot learn Dragonbreath

You have a short memory. It could in G/S/C.

Blast Burn is...essentially a Fire-type Hyper Beam.

And is therefore beyond pointless, and the obsession with not seeing it when there was nothing that suggested it might be in the episode in the first place is completely inexplicable, and very annoying.

[V Faction]

And is therefore beyond pointless, and the obsession with not seeing it when there was nothing that suggested it might be in the episode in the first place is completely inexplicable, and very annoying.

Glowing. Charizard.

You're CRAZY if you think there was 'nothing suggested' in the episode.

But hey, it was a missed opportunity. Let's hope they can pull something off next time.

[Geodude]

As we all know, a glowing Pokemon can mean a number of different things. Everyone just automatically assumed Blast Burn.

[V Faction]

You wanted a suggestion, right? Anything translates into Blast Burn in my book. The fact that it turned out to be Overheat was based on bad luck and stupid decisions.

[Deathborn_606]

As we all know, a glowing Pokemon can mean a number of different things. Everyone just automatically assumed Blast Burn.

Yeah well I guessed I was wrong. Overall this episode wasn't really bad.

[Ethereal]

Fun Fact: For the longest time (if you consider when this title was released long) I thought today's episode was called "The Symbol of Life"

Wow. Someone thought the same thing I did. I thought I was crazy for thinking that. 8D!

Okay, though I HATE Charizard (for no real reason. I can't explain this pure hatred. I have the same feelings towards Treecko's family line, too. o_O), it was nice to see him again.

That's all I'll say about this episode.

10/10

[Faerie]

Gauuurgh. Another stupid episode pun. I really, really hate this. Not like 4Kids is ever gonna stop making such stupid title puns, but...

Random person: *runs up to me and whispers in my ear*

Ohh, yeah, wrong thread. >__>; Whatever.

First thing: Looks like I'm not the only one who though Rizaadon was going to use Blast Burn, hunh? I mean, it glowed RED. And Kootasu doesn't glow red when it uses Overheat, does it? True, Blast Burn is a FR/LG move, but it IS Rizaadon's signature move. Of course, Satoshi HAD to make a honkin' huge deal of it because it's a cliffhanger thingamajigger yada yada yada, even though we've seen the move ten times before. Rizaadon's just special.

And second, was I the only one who thought Norando was pulled right out of Last Exile, kiddie-fied and then stuck into Pocket Monsters? I mean, seriously, the outfit just screamed, "Lookit me! I drive a VANSHIP! Aren't I cool?!" Yeah...I told you they kiddie-fied him. It was just...Ugh. *shudders* And his assistand looked exactly the same, except pulled out of Evangelion. And I thought Genji was bad.

Third, I thought the battle between Rizaadon and Furiizaa was pretty cool. It was very realistic (I mean, Pocket Monsters realistic), 'cause they made it obvious that Rizaadon would have gotten his dragon bootie whopped if he didn't have a type advantage against Furiizaa. It IS a legendary, after all, and a near uber at that.

...And that's all I have to say. Confused about the Japanese names? Go check the English/Japanese Reference Thread.

[halloweenghost]

Good points:

- Lots of continuity. Brock talks about Liza and the Charicific Valley, Max recalls watching Charizard battle in the Johto League Championships, and Ash takes flight on Charizard, something he could never do before.

- For Ash's first official battle against a legendary Pokemon, he did pretty good! Charizard has gotten a lot stronger, and we can its training in the valley has page off. The new attacks it used were questionable, but overall I don't really mind.

This episode could have used better animation and better music, but it was still pretty good with what we got. Very epic.

- Ash gets the Knowledge symbol, as well as his Frontier case.

- Max says the Battle Arena is close? Really? Is that why it takes you guys 15 more episodes to get there? Ho!

well Ash flew upon Charizard's back shortly before it decided to stay at the characific valley


I liked the episode myself. Was cool to see a battle against a legendary.

[Black Marauder]

Charizard's battle was great. I really enjoyed this episode and what cybercubed said... lots of continuity.

[lordrock]

Yeah but he is a legendary pokemon the only time i saw articuno beaten was in the second pokemon movie and it took 2 pokemon to take him down moltres and zapdos so what's up with that?

[Judai Yuki]

Loved it and Team Rocket was not neccessary in this ep.

[*~Puru-Ryuu~*]

THat was the Best Seismic Toss ever and it's cool how Charizard learns Overheat.