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    Default Mmm... Cyndaquil steak

    Hehe... I like the title.

    Anyways, what do you think that people (meaning humans) eat in the Pokemon world? I mean, if you write a fanfic about a person who loves their team of Pokemon, would the character go to a shop and eat a hamburger made of *gasp* Miltanks?! It would just seem... wierd. Maybe unatural. But then what do your characters eat?

    I think, in the Pokemon world, they have this substance that tastes like meat, has the nutritional value of meat, but is made of some kind of veggie.

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    In Dust to Deceit, a character fishes a Goldeen right out of the river and sticks a fork right in it a few seconds before it dies. Its a man eat man world, and Pokemon are man enough to be a part of it. Seriously, Pokemon are edible in my honest opinion, and Squirtle Turtle Soup is delicious.

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    Well, I agree with Dilasc. Of course they're just like animals in our world except they can shock,burn or drown you. Yeah, they eat miltank, farfetched, pidgey, goldeen and psyduck.

    Yeah, pokemon are edible. In my story, Taylor is a semi-hippy speaks out against it.

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    I prefer humans being vegetarian, subbing tofu and meaty mushrooms and stuff for meat. In the old days, though, humans probably ate Pokemon meat. Pokemon are way to intelligent and sentient to be thought of as "just like animals", it would be like eating your own kid or another human.

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    It just seems pretty wierd to eat a Pokemon... I mean, you wouldn't go out and eat a dog or a cat, would you? Most likely not, and that's because you've known one as a friend (or maybe an enemy). So if you trained a Miltank for a very long time, would you still eat hamburgers (if they were made out of Miltanks)? It would just feel wrong.

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    You are what you eat.

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    In my stories, humans eat Pokemon becease, well, Pokemon are animals!... exept they got powers and becease some of them are sentient (most merely obey their instincts however).

    In fact, in one of my stories involving Mewtwo (which I feature way too much in my stories but well...), he thinks about how it's so weird and yet normal for him to eat a good, meaty, juicy Miltank steak when he happens to be a Pokemon himself.

    As for you speaking about eating cats and dogs... well, it can be done. Also, pigs and cows are animals too, you know. It's just that unlike cats and dogs, they aren't seen as pets and as such, people don't feel guilty eating them...

    ... in fact, the same could be said for Pokemon. People would feel guilty eating, say, a Growlithe (the Pokemon equivalent of a dog)... but eating a Miltank (the Pokemon equivalent of a cow) would seem perfectly normal.

    I feel like writting a big dissertation about how stating that eating meat is cruel is hypocritical since plants are alive too but well... this would be asking for flame and the fact that I mentionned this opinion of mine could already cause some people to be offended so I'll stop there.

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    Well yeah, eating a charmander would really give you heartburn *HEHEHE* Probably in the old days. I think eating pokemon is really rupulsive though. I agree with the tofo idea. But, what about Farfetched being a delecacy?
    Still creepy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zerodius
    As for you speaking about eating cats and dogs... well, it can be done. Also, pigs and cows are animals too, you know. It's just that unlike cats and dogs, they aren't seen as pets and as such, people don't feel guilty eating them...
    I know that many people eat animals that we see as pets. Dogs, rabbits, all good food. It's just that the people who eat them usually don't have a pet of that sort of their own, so they don't see it as any bad. I bet that if I ever had a pet pig/sheep/cow/ect I wouldn't eat that kind of meat ever again, but because I haven't, I'm still a steak-lover.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zerodius
    I feel like writting a big dissertation about how stating that eating meat is cruel is hypocritical since plants are alive too but well...
    I have actually done that... I knew this person who was a vegetarian, and I told her that billions of helpless plants are thrown into inhumane conditions and then mercilessly slaughtered. I think it freaked her out.

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    I don't see why Miltank is always classed as a Pokemon someone should eat. I mean, it is very capable of performing in battles, right? And Pokemon are VERY sentient, moreso than animals. They can understand human speech and emotions nearly perfectly. Just because Miltank is a cow doesn't mean she should be treated as a regular food cow... she's a battling Pokemon like all the others.

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    Well I'd feel it was obvious that Pokemon are eaten. It gives a huge sense of reality.

    I remember a thread similar to this where people said animals were actually in the Pokemon world, so they could be used as they are today.
    You could make Pokemon meals a delecacy, such as crispy Psyduck and stuff.

    Thing is, it may be wierd, but when you decide to write a story that doesn't follow the anime/games, you have to invent these kind of things and decide for yourself whether it happens or not.

    If you dont decide to allow the Pokemon to be eaten, then I suggest you give a very good excuse for it other than most people think it is wierd. Because, honestly, if Pokemon were real, I'm pretty sure people would take the opppertunity to eat them - why wouldn't they?

    So yeah, forget about the wierdness and just do it I say. Either that or come up with a good excuse or dont involve details of meals into the fic at all =/
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    Pokemon aren't animals. >>

    *Cough.* Anyway, I got into a mini debate about that before and I'd rather not now so--animals do exist in my fic...that's right, in addition to Pokemon. It just wouldn't work otherwise, IMO. Humans eat animals, Pokemon, however, will hunt Pokemon of another species, (though they take animals when they can get 'em.) Some of them are against it, some are not, but as far as humans go, killing a Pokemon in my fic is illegal. Seriously, would you want to eat something that could think and talk and...if you taught it to, even...even read as good as you??? OO; That could walk up to you and, provided you knew the language, hold an intelligent conversation???

    I dunno, that just creeps me out. >> But then, a lot of fics don't portray Pokemon as sentient, so with that it's fine.

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    I had people eating Combusken in my fanfic. Seriously, people eat meat as do some Pokemon. Do you think Sharpedo eats kelp?

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    Here's the Pokemon under-sea food chain:

    Barboach > Remoraid > Feebas > Magikarp > Chincou > Goldeen > Gorebyss > Lanturn > Huntail > Seaking > Milotic > Octillery > Sharpedo > Gyarados > Wailord > Kyogre

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    I'll be the first to say that breeding Pok&#233;mon for human consumption would simply be logically impossible.

    Imagine a farm of Miltank, since Miltank seems to be such a popular example in this thread. As Pok&#233;mon are clearly sentient, the Miltank would

    a) realize what is going on when they are taken to be slaughtered
    b) realize what is going on when the other Miltank are taken to be slaughtered
    c) not want to be slaughtered
    d) be able to perform scary techniques like Body Slam (ouch)
    e) be able to work together to overcome the farmer and save themselves

    See what I'm getting at here?

    In my fic, humans in ancient times used to only eat plants and then maybe some of the smaller, weaker Pok&#233;mon that were easier to hunt (and then they had to hunt them one by one as hunters/gatherers; there's no way to lock Pok&#233;mon inside and breed them). Later, a portal between the Pok&#233;mon world and the animal world opened, and the humans of the Pok&#233;mon world imported animals to breed and eat. They still ate the occasional Farfetch'd or Magikarp, but that tradition died down as more research on Pok&#233;mon speech started. At the time the fic itself happens, nobody of the main character's generation could imagine eating a Pok&#233;mon, since they've all been taught Pok&#233;mon speech at school and think of Pok&#233;mon very similar to how they think of humans.

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    In my fic, Pokemon have animalistic intelligence, so it's not really a problem for me. Of course, eating a Cyndaquil or other such popular Pokemon is the equivalent of eating a cat or a dog, so most people eat Pokemon that aren't usually trained. Of course, this sometimes poses a problem to trainers with those Pokemon, but they get over it.

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    you know, now that I think of it, some Pokemon CAN be eaten, but usually it's something that's either taboo, like how some real animals in different cultures are not eaten such as pigs or horses or as a delicacy.

    other then that, foodstuffs is probably the only time that real animals such as fish and small bugs and possibly beef will appear in the fic.
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    Everyone talks about animal, but mentionms Pokemon eating as Taboo. Where the heck are these 'animals?' I don't think such a strange thing as 'animals' exist in the Pokemon universe... at least I think.

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    Considering the Barboach closely ressembles the sea lamprey, he'd probably be at the top as a parasite instead of the bottom.

    Dragonfree, while fairy, humanshaped, and a couple of other individual species are sentient, I doubt your basic miltank would understand the process of beef ranching if you drew it out on a chalk board.

    And as I said, Pokemon eat Pokemon. It's called the food chain. Heck, we let ourselves get eaten alive by parasites and we're sentient

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    hey, we need pokemon that are perfect for being at the very bottom of the food chain. like pokemon plankton or something...

    what about Bug pokemon, where do they fit exactly, a few like Caterpie seem to be made for the role of being eaten by bigger pokemon...
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Big Al
    Dragonfree, while fairy, humanshaped, and a couple of other individual species are sentient, I doubt your basic miltank would understand the process of beef ranching if you drew it out on a chalk board.
    just out of curiousity...where's your evidence for Miltank being stupid?

    just because our cows are stupid doesn't mean Miltank necessarily are...and even our cows being stupid is debatable.

    *shrugs*

    I'm gonna have to agree with Dragonfree on this one.

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    so....soem Pokes are sentient, and others aren't?

    ...

    what's your basis for that?
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    The way I see it with the Pokemon eating other Pokemon thing... in the wild, Pokemon are still intelligent, yet they behave more like "regular" animals because they are trying to survive. It's like how, generally, you are taught not to kill other people, yet people are fine with going to war and killing people there.

    Humans, with our conveniences... we're not trying to survive in the wilderness like wild Pokemon are, and really, there would be no reason to have to eat a Pokemon. Ok, ok, look at Meowth from the anime. He's just a regular Pokemon, but he learned to speak. Not only can he speak, he can converse with humans fluently... so well, he is commonly treated like a human character instead of a Pokemon. Now, any Pokemon has the potential to learn to converse with humans perfectly. Would you be comfortable with eating something so human-like? I dunno, with how advanced the Pokemon world is, it seems really backwards for humans to have to eat Pokemon.

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    Well, in my 'fic, humans do eat pokemon. Not all pokemon, though. Miltank are eaten. Of course, the diet is more vegetarian than anything but meat is still eaten.

    "Popular" pokemon aren't eaten. I generally try to substitute in a pokemon where an animal would be, but like I said, the people are more vegetarian than anything. They eat meat, but not much.


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    Not all Pokemon are as intellegent as Meowth. Do you think a Caterpie could learn to speak a human language?

    As for some Pokemon being smarter than others. It's the same in the real world. There are highly intellegent animals and unintellegent animals. Why do you think it would be any different with Pokemon?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dilasc
    Everyone talks about animal, but mentionms Pokemon eating as Taboo. Where the heck are these 'animals?' I don't think such a strange thing as 'animals' exist in the Pokemon universe... at least I think.
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    Said episode (The Water Flowers of Cerulean City) has usually been the grounds for saying that animals exist alongside humans. If you try to delve deeper into the idea, consider that there is no religion seen in Pokemon, and since pokemon 'evolve' almost ever day, the theory of evolution would also be widely beleived. That would mean humans and pokemon evolved from the same species, and begs the question why do pokemon have amazing skills but not humans?

    While eating pokemon isn't out of the question, the presence of animals shouldn't be dismissed because they're appearences are pushed away and pokemon made the forerunners. Of course pokemon is based on Japanese culture, and vegetarianism is commonplace in Japan, but then you have to ask, do people eat Venusaur leaves, or stew made of Oddish?

    On the other hand, it IS fanfiction after all, and ultimatly it's your interpretation of events.

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