Fic ideas V.2

[Araleon]

Originally Posted by trixie08

I have a pretty decent fic idea, it's kinda basic because I'm still trying to put things together, but here's the main thing of my story:

It is set in both New York City (and other places, depending on the setting of a certain chapter) and in a dimension known as Elesia. The latter is a secret and secluded place where many Pokemon roam free, but it was then found by a scientist whose main objective is to create more violent and ferocious Pokemon, doing so by kidnapping certain Pokemon and taking DNA samples to create more fiendish-looking creatures.

One of the Pokemon that he gets is a Chimchar, who ends up escaping and finds itself in the real world, in New York City to be exact. There, it befriends a 17-year-old girl named Michelle Larson, who decides to take care of it.

The other characters include Andrew, 17, Michelle's closest friend and crush, Jessica, a 20-year-old college student at NYU, Mark, a 22-year-old student teacher, also in NYU, and Laura, a 25-year-old woman who is secretly skilled with swords.

So yeah, the idea looks kinda fail, but like I said, I am building it up and there will be more Pokemon, characters, a name for the villain, et al.

This is not exactly a Pokemon fic where the main character is all "I am gonna capture all the Pokemon and become a Pokemon master!" The main characters do not end up with a lot of Pokemon on their teams, and you will see why. Note that it will involve the plates, but Arceus will not be in the fic, so they will obviously serve a much different purpose.

So go ahead. Critique away!

You know, I think I'd actually read this. Although it reminds me vaguely of season 3 of Digimon, Digimon Tamers, it could work.

Now, in order for this to work, you need to put yourself in these people's shoes. Forget your love of Pokemon. Forget they exist. How would you react if you saw a small, orange chimpanzee-esque creature with a butt engulfed in flames. It doesn't go "ooh ooh" or "ah ah", it says a strange word, Chimchar, over and over again, mixing up the syllables sometimes (saying Charchim or Chachim or Chichi, etc).

Pretty freaked out right? In order to correctly gauge a reaction to such an event you, like I mentioned already, need to think how someone would react if Pokemon was never a franchise, as if Satoshi Tajiri never created Pokemon as a video game or anime. You know, that could be interesting, if he was your villain. But I'm not trying to help you with your plot.

Also, you'll need to elaborate on Elesia. If it's another dimension, how do you get there? How would you get back?

Like I said, this could be a really interesting story, not like the typical fic on the forums. I like it. Good luck!

[Miror B.]

Okay, let's have Dawn (or some other generally cheerful character) win a trip to Orre, specifically, Phenac City.

So she takes a boat to Gateon Port, with a car waiting for her there. As they travel the deserts to Phenac, their car breaks down. Don't worry, they're just outside of a town!

Pyrite Town.

This leaves Dawn (or other character) in what is pretty much the ghetto of the Pokemon World.
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What do you think? Good Idea?

[Elrade]

Only if there's some hilariously bad rap number involving a singing snubbull and some Mexican Rattata on the cruise ship there.

[Yami Ryu]

So there's this thread http://www.serebiiforums.com/showthread.php?t=390849 for ideas you know it says Fic Ideas.

Okay, let's have Dawn (or some other generally cheerful character) win a trip to Orre, specifically, Phenac City.

Um what? Win a trip how?

So she takes a boat to Gateon Port, with a car waiting for her there. As they travel the deserts to Phenac, their car breaks down. Don't worry, they're just outside of a town!

Pyrite Town.

This leaves Dawn (or other character) in what is pretty much the ghetto of the Pokemon World.

Yeeeeaaaah and last time I checked in XD they were trying to make it better- it was thanks to Snaggem and others that it was as bad off as it was. So ... yeah.

I really don't see what the point of your story is outside of I DONT LIKE HOW THESE CHARACTERS ARE SO GODDAMN HAPPY. YOU KNOW WHAT IM GONNA RAIN ON THEIR PARADE. BWAHAHA-

Yeah .. there's NOTHING here. Just you tormenting someone.

[Elrade]

Well, what if she comes out of there as a badass or somethin'? Who kicks thugs heads in for laughs?

[lugia*master]

It's a good idea, but I don't think it'll last THAT long.

[Yami Ryu]

Originally Posted by Elrade

Well, what if she comes out of there as a badass or somethin'? Who kicks thugs heads in for laughs?

So basically take a cannon character, twist them into something drastically changed? Just as I said once again because 'omg they were to happy I must destroy this happiness!' That's not a reason to really write a book.

I read a book some coughdrop did because oh the events of 9/11 inspired him to write!

It came out as a trashy story, slamming all of humanity, all relegion, all goverment, and making it seem that crackpots who migrated to a mars coloney and allowed legal use of drugs and underage sex, were heaven blessed saints.

So just because you can write something.

Doesn't always mean you should.

[lugia*master]

The fact that she mentioned that they were a generally happy character doesn't mean that that is the basis of the whole story. It's just part of their personality, something which you seem to be taking more notice of than the rest of it.

[.Bright Side.]

Originally posted by Miror B.
Okay, let's have Dawn (or some other generally cheerful character) win a trip to Orre, specifically, Phenac City.

So she takes a boat to Gateon Port, with a car waiting for her there. As they travel the deserts to Phenac, their car breaks down. Don't worry, they're just outside of a town!

Pyrite Town.

This leaves Dawn (or other character) in what is pretty much the ghetto of the Pokemon World.
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What do you think? Good Idea?

I have to agree with Yami; this idea is pretty lacking and flat.

What's the plot? So Dawn is the ghetto? No what? What does she do?
And Dawn herself has the personality of sand paper so right there the characters seems uninteresting since you described them in one sentence.

Flesh.out.idea

[dawsoc]

well i'm going to start a story about a new pokemon region,with two trainers traveling,defeating gym leaders and stopping the bad guys,you know the usual,while dealing with the pokedex and helping the professors assistants

[Diddy]

Okay, your writing a typical Journey fic in a new region.

There's not really anything anyone can say about that other than try to make it unique, sometimes people get bored of the same old same old. So if there's something about your typical journey fic that makes it stand out from the crowd then people will read it, well if they think it's well written.

[Hakajin]

Ok, I've got a problem. The fic I'm working on right now isn't so much on the story. It's pretty much a typical journey fic. I'm really, really focusing on characterization, but some of my characters are going to look like the worst kind of stereotypes when they first appear. I'm sure readers will like it if they stick with it, but I'm afraid they won't stick around long enough to get to the good parts.

I've come up with a few ideas. I'm pretty sure I'm going to have one of my more seemingly stereotypical characters use a blind Pokemon as his primary. I'm going to use that as best I can, but I don't think it's enough, especially since that character isn't part of the main group.

I thought about putting magical elements in it, too. Not flashy magic, more like the kind of magic you feel like you could find if you looked hard enough (like the manga Aqua and Aria, if you've ever read those).

I've also considered having my characters journeying in a foreign region that has a different language and culture. I like that idea, and I have some specific things I'd like to do with it, but I wouldn't want to get to that part right away. So it wouldn't exactly help me keep readers around.

Well, those are my ideas so far. I had some others, but they weren't as good. Anyone got anything else? Hey... if I did a kind of special league for special needs Pokemon... I'd have to re-write what I have, but it's only one chapter, it wouldn't be that hard... or maybe I wouldn't have to, after all... could be interesting. Hm... but... no, that could still work.

Anyway, what do you guys think? Anyone got any other ideas?

[. IC Ghost .]

Originally Posted by Hakajin

It's pretty much a typical journey fic. I'm really, really focusing on characterization, but some of my characters are going to look like the worst kind of stereotypes when they first appear. I'm sure readers will like it if they stick with it, but I'm afraid they won't stick around long enough to get to the good parts.

Well, then you'll have to either go back and introduce your characters so they are not so stereotypical, or appeal to your readers differently via plot. Since it is a new region, start off your story with an interesting little tidbit or give a compelling reason why your characters want to journey there so badly.

Originally Posted by Hakajin

I'm pretty sure I'm going to have one of my more seemingly stereotypical characters use a blind Pokemon as his primary. I'm going to use that as best I can, but I don't think it's enough, especially since that character isn't part of the main group.

It certiainly puts him at a disadvantage, and I'm interested to see how the two of them as partners would cope, but definitely do not count on that being the only thing to drive your story forward. If anything, that's just another little plot device your readers will smile at and say "Oh, that's cool," and keep on reading. It's not an attention-holder at all.

Originally Posted by Hakajin

I thought about putting magical elements in it, too. Not flashy magic, more like the kind of magic you feel like you could find if you looked hard enough (like the manga Aqua and Aria, if you've ever read those).

Hm, not read those manga, and usually I'm not a fan of magic in Pokemon stories, most often because they are not done correctly and I don't see magic as really having a place in the Pokeworld. If you can give an explanation for this magic, small as it may be, then I think you'll be okay. Also as long as it's not something just given to your main characters for the heck of it, and the magic is fairly normal for this region... okay, it sounds alright.

Originally Posted by Hakajin

Hey... if I did a kind of special league for special needs Pokemon... I'd have to re-write what I have, but it's only one chapter, it wouldn't be that hard... or maybe I wouldn't have to, after all... could be interesting. Hm... but... no, that could still work.

What? Where does this fit in with your idea above? If it's completely separate, then I'd say it makes a pretty poor story idea, no offense. :/ If, however, you plan on implementing it into your story above, how on earth does it fit in? It seems completely random...

[Hakajin]

Well, then you'll have to either go back and introduce your characters so they are not so stereotypical, or appeal to your readers differently via plot. Since it is a new region, start off your story with an interesting little tidbit or give a compelling reason why your characters want to journey there so badly.

Well, I've only introduced one character so far. The problem is that... well, I guess I kind of almost want the characters to seem stereotypical at first. I definitely want to have my protagonist make assumptions about them. But the main problem is that it takes time to develop a character, especially when you don't know much about her past at first. It's not a problem with my main character, though, since it's in the first person and the readers know pretty much everything about her.

I'm not sure I want to do a new region. I did mention making it a foreign place, which I think is a good idea, but there are still problems with the timing. I'm still trying to think of a way to work that out. I could have parts of the region more modernized than others, I suppose... yeah, that could work.

It certiainly puts him at a disadvantage, and I'm interested to see how the two of them as partners would cope, but definitely do not count on that being the only thing to drive your story forward. If anything, that's just another little plot device your readers will smile at and say "Oh, that's cool," and keep on reading. It's not an attention-holder at all.

Oh, no, I definitely wasn't planning on making that the crux of my whole story. I was thinking of how to set that character apart, or at least to hint that there's more to him than you see at first. I just don't want readers to write him off as a stereotype.

Hm, not read those manga, and usually I'm not a fan of magic in Pokemon stories, most often because they are not done correctly and I don't see magic as really having a place in the Pokeworld. If you can give an explanation for this magic, small as it may be, then I think you'll be okay. Also as long as it's not something just given to your main characters for the heck of it, and the magic is fairly normal for this region... okay, it sounds alright.

Ah, the main character of those manga sometimes sees supernatural things, like one time, she witnessed a fox spirits' wedding. It's mostly a slice-of-life story, but... It was a separate idea from my foreign region idea, but it would actually fit. I wouldn't have to make it a huge part of the plot, just certain episodes that involve something extraordinary. It would help make the region feel more foreign and mysterious, I think... and it would also fit with the themes of the story.

What? Where does this fit in with your idea above? If it's completely separate, then I'd say it makes a pretty poor story idea, no offense. :/ If, however, you plan on implementing it into your story above, how on earth does it fit in? It seems completely random...

Yeah, it was completely separate. I was thinking it might be interesting to have Pokemon with different disabilities battle, and to show how different it makes their styles... it was just kind of a random idea that occurred to me, though, and I realized it doesn't really work because it'd probably come down to the characters using only one Pokemon each.

Anyway, thanks for the feedback. It's nice to get some perspective on my ideas.

[Yami Ryu]

Hey... if I did a kind of special league for special needs Pokemon... I'd have to re-write what I have, but it's only one chapter, it wouldn't be that hard... or maybe I wouldn't have to, after all... could be interesting. Hm... but... no, that could still work.

Yeah, it was completely separate. I was thinking it might be interesting to have Pokemon with different disabilities battle, and to show how different it makes their styles... it was just kind of a random idea that occurred to me, though, and I realized it doesn't really work because it'd probably come down to the characters using only one Pokemon each.

1: With how pokemon centers are 'today' in the pokemon games, no pokemon is disabled/crippled/handicapped via battling.

2: A pokemon born crippled, disabled or wrong according to nature, would most likely be destroyed or abandond by the parents.

3: Special Needs pokemon, would require very special care. This also wouldn't be like 'lol a charizard that can not fly', this would have to be serious injuries, mental and physical.

4: Special Needs pokemon would require a lot of money for care. Because their care needs aren't the same as others.

5: What trainers would keep these sorts of pokemon. Would you honestly expect a person to force a Rapidash to become mr Tripod? No. It would be put down. Or anything seriously extreme and cruel like that. And even if they did keep them, again what sort of trainers would just use them in special sports like this. For quick bucks? Fame? That's disgusting.

Overall it's just a bad, bad idea.

[lugia*master]

A pokemon born crippled, disabled or wrong according to nature, would most likely be destroyed or abandond by the parents.

If you had a child, who was disabled in some way, wether your a pokemon or not, would you abandon them? No. It's a sense that people have with children, they're your own, and that they need your support and care that urges some people to give extra help, not abandon them, or even put them up for adoption, because that'd, in many cases, just make things worse for them.

And, perhaps thsi special needs league didn't involve battling in the way we know it. After all, it is in a foreign region with different cultures. I'd like to see what could be done with this idea.

[Yami Ryu]

Originally Posted by lugia*master

If you had a child, who was disabled in some way, wether your a pokemon or not, would you abandon them? No. It's a sense that people have with children, they're your own, and that they need your support and care that urges some people to give extra help, not abandon them, or even put them up for adoption, because that'd, in many cases, just make things worse for them.

POKEMON ARE ANIMALS.

DURP.

Do you not know what animals do when they smell a sickly offspring or pack member or anything of the sort? They either a: Abandon it, b: destroy it c: ignore it and don't allow it to eat from any kills or eat near them. Ultimately it is left to fend for itself and or die, if it's not killed right away.

Or what are all pokemon bleeding hearts in your world? Cause if so, good for you, but my point still stands. A Charizard would not mate with a weaker charizard- this is proven when Charla pretty much flat out ignores Charizard, and subsequently Charizard pretty much nearly kills itself just to prove it's manliness.

That right there tells me a female Charizard would NOT stand for weak offspring and would most likely leave them to die.

No not all animals abandon their offspring- but most do. So that's why I highly doubt there'd be enough broken pokemon for a game like that.

Please read and think a bit more before jumping the gun to try and sound smart against a 'cruel heartless' post of mine ok?

[Blackjack Gabbiani]

They did mention it was a league. These might not be wild pokemon, you know, but ones hatched from breeders. There's certainly enough of them.

Although a whole league of disabled pokemon sounds really stupid, but it doesn't mean that you couldn't have a few.


Also come on. Swablu as a SPECIES have crippling OCD *inherently*.

[Yami Ryu]

Originally Posted by Blackjack Gabbiani

They did mention it was a league. These might not be wild pokemon, you know, but ones hatched from breeders. There's certainly enough of them.

Alright so you want to take the breeding aspect:

1: Good breeders use good stock, good breeders don't over breed/inbreed to much as it causes damage. They don't breed for the lulz.

2: Puppy Mill Breeders. This is basically the equivalent of it to be exact, as if you take it from the game perspective and you're aiming for a shiny and you want to breed for it, or you have to breed for it, then that would basically be over breeding/inbreeding/etc. This is usually frowned upon and also only really results in 1-4 breeds of animals for the most part. Usually small creatures like cats/toy dogs. So it would probably be the same, mass bred somewhat uncommon to slightly rare, small pokemon. As Realistically no one could probably mass breed the starters and etc.

3: Rules and regulations; like the real world there's laws about professionally breeding dogs. Yes people do it and claim they can do it, without the proper papers and etc, but for the most part I doubt the pokemon world would have scams such as this or puppy mills.

4: People have sued for sick and crippled animals irl, and if there are officer Jenny's, well there's probably courts, and jails. So if a breeder is continually complained about for selling sick pokemon or eggs that hatch into sick pokemon, well in the pokemon world it seems they love pokemon more than most Americans love their pets.

I do understand it could crop up here and there, but the thing is, what trainer would keep a disabled pokemon, and if there were enough of them, why would they do it. And why would they breed the pokemon, as they'd have to 'supply themselves with more sick animals'.

The more I poke and respond about this, the more this comes off as a dark/twisted story tbh.

Although a whole league of disabled pokemon sounds really stupid, but it doesn't mean that you couldn't have a few.

Never said you couldn't but again, no good breeder would knowingly sell a broken pokemon/egg, it would be next to impossible to find one in the wild. So how would one get a pokemon that would be as rare as a shiny, yet probably useless?

Also come on. Swablu as a SPECIES have crippling OCD *inherently*.

Um that's like saying that the erf I forget what bird it is, but it collects everything shiny, just anything shiny it brings to its nest to seduce girls, would be crippling- cause if it's shiny it must take it. That's like saying, cats are crippled cause they have a weakness to kill all small animals that get near them. Instincts of an animal don't stack up the same as they would with a human.

Swablu LIKE clean enviroments, EARWIG FEMALES LIEK clean enviroments- or atleast they obsessively clean their eggs to keep them safe. Swablu just likes a tidy, clean living space- no different than a female Earwig. I've raised some and they DO NOT REST untill those eggs are hatched, which funnily enough sounds the same as Swablu.

So an animal's nature/instincts DON'T = a crippling disorder. If the animal is supposed to act like that, then that is NORMAL :/

[Blackjack Gabbiani]

You're comparing this far too much to the real world. What's this "no breeder would ever knowingly sell a broken pokemon/egg"? They hand you the egg and tell you to take good care of it. There's no mills, no standards, no nothing.