Pokémon HeartGold/SoulSilver General Discussion Thread

[yaminokame]

Originally Posted by The 4th KIRA

I tried doing that, but I lost track of time and it reset again...

Anyway why would you want to get back to 0 faster?

If you're trying to figure out its mechanics (exact required steps and such) it's a lot faster to say set it an hour from midnight then build up watts within that hour. Once an hour has elapsed you can check again I don't do it though because then the Safari Zone counter won't progress

[The 4th KIRA]

Originally Posted by Pingouin7

I believe it's because some Pokémon and items don't appear anymore after an amount of steps.

Ah yes that would make sense then.

Too many steps can be a problem apparently.

[lindsy95]

so, the pokewalkers steps reset after midnight?

I didn't know that.

[The 4th KIRA]

Originally Posted by lindsy95

so, the pokewalkers steps reset after midnight?

I didn't know that.

Midnight, unless you reset your clock.

[A_Merry_Snowrunt]

Now this is something new to hear. So, after Midnight, the pokewalker resets? And certain steps can cause you to miss certain Pokemon and items?

[yaminokame]

Originally Posted by A_Merry_Snowrunt

Now this is something new to hear. So, after Midnight, the pokewalker resets? And certain steps can cause you to miss certain Pokemon and items?

You don't necessarily "miss" them, they just get harder to find. Any Pokemon in group B for most courses are little monsters to find once you have gotten enough steps to unlock group A. You have the best chance of finding an item or Pokemon when you are at just enough steps for it to be found. In most tests I've done, the item most recently unlocked tends to be the one that appears the most when searching. Certainly not always, but very often.

[redshift71388]

Can someone explain what the Slowpoke Tail's situation is in these games? Clearly it has a new item sprite () and it was part of the story, but is it actually obtainable like it was in Gold/Silver/Crystal?

[The 4th KIRA]

Originally Posted by redshift71388

Can someone explain what the Slowpoke Tail's situation is in these games? Clearly it has a new item sprite ()and it was part of the story, but is it actually obtainable like it was in Gold/Silver/Crystal?

I'm wondering about this too.

The item is in the game's data but...

[leilukin]

Originally Posted by Alpha Gamer

I didn't know Steven made an appearance in these games. Awesome!

Old news. Other than the Enigma Crystal event, Steven is the one who gives you the Hoenn starters in HG/SS. He trades you his Beldum too.

[lindsy95]

Originally Posted by redshift71388

Can someone explain what the Slowpoke Tail's situation is in these games? Clearly it has a new item sprite () and it was part of the story, but is it actually obtainable like it was in Gold/Silver/Crystal?

How did you get them in the orignal gmae? I thought the money they were asking for was past the limit of money possible or a I rembering wrong? -lost her crystal cart...that worked-

[bippacooleth]

In Silver it definitely wasn't available - the guy stood outside the Poke Centre near union cave and it cost one million or something, same as the bike in Blue
I'm not sure about crystal but I don't think it would be

[Piplup-Trainer]

Slowpokes Tail?
Yeah, there was a guy who tried to sell Slowpokes Tail for 1.000.000 (it`s impossible to get that money, the maximum you can have is 999.999), but......wasn`t it available in a special Supermarket for 1000, maybe in Goldenrod?

[Tyrannotaur]

Originally Posted by redshift71388

Can someone explain what the Slowpoke Tail's situation is in these games? Clearly it has a new item sprite () and it was part of the story, but is it actually obtainable like it was in Gold/Silver/Crystal?

Good question. I checked out Bulbapedia for the answer..

Originally Posted by Bulbapedia

Slowpoketail

* Japanese: おいしいシッポ Delicious Tail

Introduced in Generation II. Offered by Team Rocket on Route 32 for Pokémon Dollar1,000,000, the player must refuse (as that is one more Pokémon Dollar than can be carried) and save all the Slowpoke Team Rocket has kidnapped. The item later appears in a shop Team Rocket's running in Mahogany Town for the much more affordable price of Pokémon Dollar9800, but it can only be bought before meeting Lance at the Lake of Rage, at which point the shop won't sell anything until Team Rocket is defeated in Goldenrod City. The item is never seen again after meeting Lance.

The Slowpoketail is actually a useless item with no function past its monetary value. Although it's said that a Slowpoke will use its tail for fishing, a Slowpoketail has no effect on fishing at all, nor does it have any effect on Shellder despite the fact that contact with a Slowpoke's tail usually induces a spiral evolution.

One key point of interest is when first introduced, the Team Rocket member mentions the Slowpoketail's value as a delicacy, being the first time that it's ever mentioned of the use of any Pokémon as an actual food (for human consumption), a rather controversial subject of what kind of creature is the contributor of meat (of any kind) in the Pokémon world.

I dunno if that's the answer you wanted, but there you go.

[Piplup-Trainer]

Thanks for the info!
I should buy this item before Team Rocket goes away :P

[Snowyarticuno]

I'm pretty sure it's a key item, now, like the Rage Candy Bar.

[The 4th KIRA]

Originally Posted by lindsy95

How did you get them in the orignal gmae? I thought the money they were asking for was past the limit of money possible or a I rembering wrong? -lost her crystal cart...that worked-

You bought it from some guy in some town. Mahogany Town I believe.

[leilukin]

Originally Posted by lindsy95

How did you get them in the orignal gmae? I thought the money they were asking for was past the limit of money possible or a I rembering wrong? -lost her crystal cart...that worked-

Before the Mahogany Rocket Hideout Quest, there was a man in the 'shop' sold Slowpoke Tail.

[lindsy95]

Oh OK thanks for the refresher!

[The 4th KIRA]

So it's just a useless item like the Contest Pass in DPPt?

[Dragonite19]

Originally Posted by The 4th KIRA

So it's just a useless item like the Contest Pass in DPPt?

Seems like it. Although it does have some "collectible" value within the game, being avalible (spelling?) for a short time and all. I think I remember buying one in the originals.