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25th May 2009, 8:47 PM
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Banned from #SPP or #SPP-Wifi unfairly, post here. READ. THE. FIRST. POST!!!!
READ THE FIRST POST, this topic is now open and any posts that do not comply fully or partially with the format will be ignored!!!
This is a topic for posting if you've been banned from either #SPP or #SPP-Wifi chat unfairly. It was originally made to cut down on the amount of cluttering topics in the chatroom discussion, now it's being remade because you guys cannot read the first post. READ THE RULES FIRST TO MAKE SURE YOU DID NOT BREAK ANY OF THEM BEFORE POSTING!!! #SPP rules - http://serebiiforums.com/showthread.php?t=381557 #SPP-Wifi rules - http://serebiiforums.com/showthread.php?t=386017 This topic is not for whining about the way the chatroom is run, if you don't like it you may leave, no one will force you to stay. Do not argue this fact in this topic. Here is the format you will follow (or something similar, but it must include one or ALL of these items). An explanation as to what these mean will be included after the format itself. You may skip the explanation of terms down to the giant bolded font if you already know what they mean. Chatroom name: Chatroom: Operator in question: Kick message: Time and date: Logs: Now for an explanation. First is what name you were using just in case you are unable to provide us logs. Next is what chatroom you were banned in. Was it #SPP or #SPP-Wifi? After that is who banned you? There are several operators for both chats, some ops only op one chat and are not ops in another chatroom. We need to know who banned you so if it really is unfair they can be talked to, or at least provide their part of the story. You'd be amazed how many people posted about an unfair ban in the last topic only to be provided with logs and SURPRISE, the ban wasn't actually unfair at all, not even close. After you provide who banned you, provide the ban message. This can be found in the status window. There is no excuse to not have this, as even java users can retrieve this. If you get banned while on java DO NOT close the window, it will have the ban message right in front of you. Next is the time and date. Don't come here posting about an unfair ban from a week ago, we're not going to dig through our logs that far back, sorry. Last is logs. Logs are basically a copy of the conversation that took place prior to the ban. Don't just show us the actual ban part, show us what happened prior to the ban taking place so we can see if it's unfair. Note: We are busy people, a lot of us work full time and go to school, we do not have time to dig through huge folders of logs dating months or even years back to provide what YOU should be providing for us. If you do not provide us with one of the above listed in the format your post will be ignored/deleted or possibly infractioned for spam. Your nickname you used while being banned is 100% required, as is the chat you were banned from! Coming in and saying "Hey I was banned" and providing nothing to follow is no help to us at all. We will not help you if you do not help us by providing one of the following (preferably more). IF YOU GET SERVER BANNED, WE CANNOT UNBAN YOU. You MUST go to the purplesurge website. http://www.purplesurge.com Last but not least, YOU are responsible for what happens with YOUR computer. Brother/cousin/dog signed on and got you banned? Tough luck. So please, follow the format and heed to all the warnings in the first post and we will do our best to help you out.
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2nd June 2009, 4:29 PM
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Chatroom name: HOLLYY
Chatroom: #SPP-Wifi rules Operator in question: Kiori Kick message: As she remembers, something like "stop arguing" and then "Apparently, you can't take a warning" Time and date: June 1st, around 8 Logs: I don't have any logs, and it wasn't me. I understand all the "my brother did it" gets annoying, and I understand that if it's your computer, it's your responsibility. But here at my dad's house, everyone uses the same computer. My cousin barely uses serebii, and says she isn't going to use it again because the Ops are annoying, but whatever. Anyways, she got banned for argruing, and then for evading the ban. I think. But now I can't get into it at all. So, I guess it was a permenant ban. Could you please check it out for me? I just want to know if I'm banned for good because of what she did x____x Thank you -Juli
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2nd June 2009, 6:24 PM
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2nd June 2009, 6:36 PM
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No, it wasn't about evading a ban really. More like I gave countless warnings and you/someone refuses to listen to them.
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8th June 2009, 5:48 PM
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Chatroom name: BOMB
Chatroom: #SPP-Wifi, #SPP Operator in question: i don't know. Kick message: none Time and date: i noticed this morning, june 8th. Logs: none lol. basically, i woke up this morning and i was banned from both chats. i don't know why or by whom, but i don't believe i did anything wrong. i've been coming here for some time, i'm familiar with the rules... any help or explanation would be appreciated. thanks in advance.
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9th June 2009, 8:30 PM
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10th June 2009, 6:45 PM
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"Last but not least, YOU are responsible for what happens with YOUR computer. Brother/cousin/dog signed on and got you banned? Tough luck."
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12th June 2009, 3:56 PM
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Banned
I was banned in spp wifi chatroom for mentioning azure flute yesterday at 1.30am nickname ho-yee.
physcial address: 00-1D-92-97-70-1D Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0 DHCP Server: 192.168.1.254
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12th June 2009, 5:09 PM
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12th June 2009, 10:44 PM
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I was banned, heh
Well, I was twice banned yesterday and I checked Wi-Fi chat now again and I'm still banned. I was just looking at posts in the chat and then by mistake I PMed wrong person. I don't know why I was banned the first time. I was using Java, my name was wifi host and some number behind it, sorry, but I really won't remember it. I can give you my IP address which is 90.179.56.33 and I hope you will unban me. Thanks
BTW: Are the bans forever? If not, how long does it take to be unbanned ? Last edited by Hukne; 12th June 2009 at 10:47 PM.
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14th June 2009, 11:05 AM
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Untimed bans are removed when the banlist is cleared, and that usually takes 6-10 hours. As for your IP, the network cloaks it with a host, so others cannot see it, and it is that host we ban. So in order to unban you, please tell us the name you were using and also try to give us the name of the op who banned you.
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*** katya (CHEAT@NOW.YOU.CAN.SEE.A.NICE.ICE.KEY.WHICH.YOU.CA N.HAVE.FOR.FREE) has quit IRC (Quit: (3:56:28 pm) <rittre_gilr> oh mah gah!!!! guess what i juss foun out!!!!! |B selebii-fatrazychan dada mallied a MURE!!!! an ugry mure can you berieve dat??? so dats why he got holse teef!!!! CHING CHING CONG BALONG)
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15th June 2009, 2:18 AM
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That's the thing though, it isn't my computer. It's a computer at my dad's house that everyone gets on. Including me and both my cousins. And we're all here every other weekend.
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16th June 2009, 2:54 AM
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The computer in your household is a shared responsibility, each of you will be held responsible for the actions of anyone on the computer.
Unless such behavior has happened more than once you should be unbanned after several days at most.
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16th June 2009, 4:16 AM
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16th June 2009, 5:56 AM
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Wow, whoever this Dratini927 person is, is incredibly unfair. They ban you for every small reason they can pick out of you. I got banned for just saying something twice like 30 seconds after I said it the first time because apparently it's repeating? WELL HOW ABOUT THIS, when I'm looking for something, if I am not persistant then it will never happen. So instead of kicking people they should be more leniant and understanding. I wanted to point this out. It barely occurs to me with other mods, just this Dratini927 person who is very unfair.
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16th June 2009, 8:51 PM
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1) It was a script, hence he didn't actually ban you himself OMG HES SO UNNFAIR etc.
2) It was a 5 minute script ban for repeating, meaning you could actually rejoin in 5 minutes. Plus, the time is stated in the kick message, so you can't complain of not knowing that. 3) If you had read the rules, you would have known that repeating too often triggers script. Not our fault.
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*** katya (CHEAT@NOW.YOU.CAN.SEE.A.NICE.ICE.KEY.WHICH.YOU.CA N.HAVE.FOR.FREE) has quit IRC (Quit: (3:56:28 pm) <rittre_gilr> oh mah gah!!!! guess what i juss foun out!!!!! |B selebii-fatrazychan dada mallied a MURE!!!! an ugry mure can you berieve dat??? so dats why he got holse teef!!!! CHING CHING CONG BALONG)
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16th June 2009, 11:45 PM
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18th June 2009, 12:39 AM
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Chatroom name: "Kirbu," "DawnFan," and "Justkidding"
Chatroom: #spp Operator in question: Kirby Kick message: (you're done now) Time and date: [15:54] on (6/17) Logs: <none> First, some preface: Over the past few weeks, I'd posted on the chatroom as the user "DawnFan" in an effort to garner discussion over the role of the character "Dawn" in the Pokemon anime. My participation as "DawnFan" has been, numerous times, considering 'trolling' by the Ops, and I'd been asked yesterday (6/16) to cease 'trolling' as DawnFan by the Op "Kirby." More past issues: Yesterday (6/16), I was also asked to change my username from "Kirbu" by the same Op "Kirby," because it was too similar to her name. I complied, and posted again as "DawnFan." Here I was told a final time to stop 'trolling' as DawnFan. TODAY (6/17): I enter the chat as "Kirbu" and begin discussing competitive movesets for Infernape. The Op "Kirby" is not in the chat. Kirbu is my username on multiple chats, and is my AIM screenname as well. I am simultaneously on the site "smogon.com/forums/" referencing other discussions concerning the Infernape metagame. As I am browsing smogon.com, Kirby posts a message on the main chat asking me to change my username. I do not see this message, as I am viewing other tabs. I post another message to the chat concerning the Infernape moveset and am subsequently kicked (as a warning) and asked to change my username in the kick message (I do not still have this message but it occurred approximately 2 minutes before the ban). When I rejoined, because of my past relationship with the Op "Kirby," I joined under the username "DawnFan," as a joke. I did not make any inflammatory posts and did not 'troll' as had been requested of me. Within 10 seconds of changing my username to "DawnFan" I reverted and changed it to "Justkidding" in order to indicate to the Op that I was "just kidding" and had no intent of trolling- I merely wanted to continue the discussion about Infernape in competitive play. I was banned several seconds AFTER changing my username to "Justkidding," with the message (you're done now). When I /queried Kirby as to the reason for my ban, she said that she was "sick of my attitude problem." There are a few issues here: 1. Username similarity- I was never intentionally trying to make my username similar to the Op "Kirby." Yesterday, it was pure coincidence that she was logged in when I switched my name to "Kirbu," and today she was not logged in at all to the chat when I made my username "Kirbu." When an Op is not in the chat, I believe that it is acceptable to have a username (unintentionally) similar to them if it does not cause trouble. I changed my username as soon as I received a warning kick, as I did not initially notice Kirby's request for me to change my username. 2. Somewhat of a corollary to #1- Abuse of power- None of the other Ops had an issue with my username being too similar to "Kirby." Based on my private chat with "Kirby," she seems to indicate that having such a username that is similar to a notable user or an Op is unacceptable whether or not the Op is in the channel. This means that my having the username "Dratini" would be illegitimate because there is an Op named Dratini927- whether or not that Op is present in the chat. Here is the log of said chat: [16:11] <Kirby> no where in the rules does it say it's okay [16:11] <Kirby> to use similar names [16:11] <Kirby> when the other person is not on [16:11] <Kirby> it says don't do this, period [16:11] <Kirby> I did not mislead them [16:11] <Justkidding> I don't choose them with the intent to mislead. [16:11] <Justkidding> Plus BOTH TIMES, I changed it to something else. [16:11] <Kirby> it should not have happened a second time [16:11] <Justkidding> You weren't in the Chat! [16:11] <Kirby> IT [16:12] <Kirby> DOESN'T [16:12] <Kirby> MATTER [16:12] <Justkidding> Kirbu is my username of choice, and you weren't in the Chat [16:12] <Kirby> No, it does not matter, what part of this do you not understand [16:12] <Justkidding> I can't name myself Dratini either, even though that's the name of a Pokemon, just because the Op Dratini927 might join at any moment? [16:12] <Justkidding> That's ridiculous [16:12] <Justkidding> And that's not part of the rules [16:12] <Kirby> yes it is [16:12] <Justkidding> But when they are NOT IN THE CHAT, it's not fair. [16:13] <Kirby> it is fair, especially when it's an op or a well known member I do not believe that "Kirbu" is similar enough to "Kirby" to constitute a kick- but because the Op requested that I changed the username, I COMPLIED. I did not break the rules. Furthermore, "Kirby" references that other people had complained yesterday (6/16) about my use of the name "Kirbu" because it was 'confusing.' This was only true because Kirby and Kirbu were posting at the same time, which caused confusion because the usernames would appear side by side, obscuring readability. When Kirby is not in the chat, users should not be disallowed from having usernames tangentially related to her. 3. What constitutes trolling- Yes I had used the username "DawnFan" to post messages of questionable legitmacy; they could have been construed as 'trolling.' However, merely using the username DawnFan does not constitute trolling- It is the ACT of posting messages that praise Dawn's worth and role in the Pokemon anime that could be construed as 'trolling.' I did neither of these, and changed my name to "Justkidding" almost immediately, to indicate it was simply a playful joke, and that I did not intend to troll. 4. Location of the rules- I had no way of knowing that having a username similar to an Op was a breach of conduct because the entirety of the chat rules are not contained on the chat page. Because I do not regularly visit the forums, I did not know there was an expanded edition of the chat rules on the forum, and I was under the impression that all that I needed to know was contained in the space below the chat on http://www.serebii.net/chat.shtml This issue of username similarity would not have arisen were the chat rules more easily accessed or noticeable. There is not even a LINK pointing users to the full set of rules on the forum. This would be helpful to avoid trouble in the future. Thanks, Kirbu. Last edited by sppchatuser; 18th June 2009 at 12:42 AM.
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18th June 2009, 12:57 AM
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The ban appears to be appropriate in being issued for the time being, once you are unbanned I would HIGHLY recommend avoiding either of the nicks in the future and attempt to be more appropriate in your conversations
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